Class 365s to Scotrail

[TransportHub]

They’re out every day now.

Thanks, does anyone have diagrams for them?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Well, apparently even the queen is a 365 fan! It will be interesting to see if a 365 goes to Kings Lynn this coming December...

Wonder if we'll see one painted maroon and fitted with luxury sleeping quarters for her Maj'? Those mk2s and mk3s can't last forever!

 

[92002]

Thanks, does anyone have diagrams for them?

Only 4 of the 10 units operating this week in 8 car sets.
Even hours from Glasgow at xx30 and xx45 and even hours from Edinburgh.

 

[route101]

I was on the same cancelled train, and also didn’t bother with the 17:30. 17:45 is scheduled to overtake the 17:33 as it trundles through Falkirk. (Which it didn’t last night)
Which reminds me, need to put in my delay repay claim.

Somewhat controversial, but I’m not a huge fan of the 365s. Lack of armrests in Standard & the fixed ones in First make it a bit awkward getting in & out when sitting in the window seat. Not that that will be an issue for me when 1st is reclassified.

I like the fact theres lots of airline seating .

 

[PaxVobiscum]

Apologies for the plug/parallel post, but the latest Queen Street Update video has footage taken on board one of the 365 sets on Friday *and a Scotrail HST parked at Eastfield (thanks, gingertom )

Also please excuse the technical/production quality - it gets worse every time

 

[delt1c]

Will be visiting the homeland in September so hopefully will get a chance to enjoy the 365's that i used to commute into Kings X on

 

[gingertom]

Apologies for the plug/parallel post, but the latest Queen Street Update video has footage taken on board one of the 365 sets on Friday.

Also please excuse the technical/production quality - it gets worse every time

I thought it fine, and I'm sure viewers would agree it's a great effort pulling all this together- keep up the good work!
Perhaps you could have drawn attention to Eastfield's "visitor".

 

[InOban]

They're excellent. I was only puzzled by the emptiness of 365.

 

[route101]

They're excellent. I was only puzzled by the emptiness of 365.

8 car unit , many can't be bothered walking to the front .

 

[PaxVobiscum]

I thought it fine, and I'm sure viewers would agree it's a great effort pulling all this together- keep up the good work!
Perhaps you could have drawn attention to Eastfield's "visitor".

Thanks - and for the suggestion.
I’ll do that in the blurb as I don’t think I’ll have time to add it in to the voiceover.

 

[gsnedders]

8 car unit , many can't be bothered walking to the front .

It was often like that on the 6-car 170s! Be willing to walk to the front as soon as the platform is announced, and you'll safely get a table, even on the trains either side of the peaks. It then slowly fills up with people as they have to to get a seat.

 

[Journeyman]

They're extending their reach - 1715 out of Queen Street tonight is a pair of 365s, for the first time. It's been solidly 170s up to now.

 

[The_Engineer]

They're extending their reach - 1715 out of Queen Street tonight is a pair of 365s, for the first time. It's been solidly 170s up to now

Taking it up to 8 out of 10 diagrammed slowly, as driver training permits.....

 

[superkev]

Taking it up to 8 out of 10 diagrammed slowly, as driver training permits.....

Shouldn't those spare 170's be on there way to northern by now?
K

 

[The_Engineer]

Shouldn't those spare 170's be on there way to northern by now?
K

They will go when their lease expires…..

 

[InOban]

And they can be used strengthen services for the Open Golf next week.

 

[385001]

I was on the 1345 Edinburgh Waverley (EDB) to Glasgow Queen Street (GLQ) and the 1845 Glasgow Queen Street to Edinburgh Waverley today - as was the 1330 EDB-GLQ.

Nice units. Even my Dad remarked on how quick they seemed.

I also spotted at least one 365 unit at Easfield on each trip as well as some 385s and an HST with one Scotrail branded power car.

 

[Northhighland]

Shouldn't those spare 170's be on there way to northern by now?
K

If there are spare 170’s why are we still overcrowding g so many services?

 

[gsnedders]

Finally made it onto a 365 (I haven't had the ability to hang around for one, and today was just chance).

The 1715 from GLQ seems to be a four car unit only, and per the announcement, no working toilets!

I'd also forgotten quite how few bays they have! That said, boy do they shift up the Cowlairs incline. (Though so do the 380s, and one expects any electric stock!)

Also, they seem as bad as the 700s do for the window seats being so far out over the ducting and having to sit squint in them.

 

[Kite159]

Finally made it onto a 365 (I haven't had the ability to hang around for one, and today was just chance).

The 1715 from GLQ seems to be a four car unit only, and per the announcement, no working toilets!

I'd also forgotten quite how few bays they have! That said, boy do they shift up the Cowlairs incline. (Though so do the 380s, and one expects any electric stock!)

Also, they seem as bad as the 700s do for the window seats being so far out over the ducting and having to sit squint in them.

You can thank the Govia refresh for that, when they ran under First Capital Connect (and before) there were a lot more bay seats (and the seats were more comfortable)

 

[bramling]

Finally made it onto a 365 (I haven't had the ability to hang around for one, and today was just chance).

The 1715 from GLQ seems to be a four car unit only, and per the announcement, no working toilets!

I'd also forgotten quite how few bays they have! That said, boy do they shift up the Cowlairs incline. (Though so do the 380s, and one expects any electric stock!)

Also, they seem as bad as the 700s do for the window seats being so far out over the ducting and having to sit squint in them.

Definitely nowhere near as bad as the 700s. The seats nearest the doorways are slightly less well separated, but that’s about all.

 

[387star]

Definitely nowhere near as bad as the 700s. The seats nearest the doorways are slightly less well separated, but that’s about all.

700s have some grear features notably the capacious luggage racks which are glass rather than the horrid plastic holes the 377s have shame about the seats

 

[Agent_Squash]

Definitely nowhere near as bad as the 700s. The seats nearest the doorways are slightly less well separated, but that’s about all.

Didn't you once describe the 365 seating layout as 'perfect', or is that just in order to help with your constant quest to bash the 700s?

 

[route101]

I love the 365 seating , loads of airline seating , much better than the 334 bays!

 

[bramling]

Didn't you once describe the 365 seating layout as 'perfect', or is that just in order to help with your constant quest to bash the 700s?

No, I think you’ll find I said something like it’s near perfect *as a compromise*. All design and engineering is a trade-off between various different priorities, both engineering constraints and those imposed by the end user.

So whilst in an ideal world I’d prefer the seats nearest the doors to be spaced the same as all the others, I can easily recognise why it has been done like that, to give a little more circulating space round the doorway areas.

The 365 is rather good at these compromises, hence why it’s one of the few designs which does very well as an express and outer-suburban design, which also happens to handle metro work pretty well too. It maximises seating, it provides pretty good standing capacity, yet has few of the discomforts associated with the 700s. It was even better before they messed around with the interior layout, which seems to have been to create priority seats meeting requirements.

 

[gsnedders]

You can thank the Govia refresh for that, when they ran under First Capital Connect (and before) there were a lot more bay seats (and the seats were more comfortable)

Ah, then I probably haven't been on one like that before!

 

[capital12]

You can thank the Govia refresh for that, when they ran under First Capital Connect (and before) there were a lot more bay seats (and the seats were more comfortable)

The refresh was started under FCC before the franchise change - so not sure Govia can be blamed for that unless they had input before they took over.

The first couple at least had FCC logos on the grey livery.

 

[Journeyman]

Finally made it onto a 365 (I haven't had the ability to hang around for one, and today was just chance).

The 1715 from GLQ seems to be a four car unit only, and per the announcement, no working toilets!

I'd also forgotten quite how few bays they have! That said, boy do they shift up the Cowlairs incline. (Though so do the 380s, and one expects any electric stock!)

Also, they seem as bad as the 700s do for the window seats being so far out over the ducting and having to sit squint in them.

1715 was eight cars when I used it on Friday, that must have been an unscheduled short-form. It's normally my regular train home, but I was in Manchester Monday and Tuesday, so I'll be using it for the first time this week tonight. Will advise on formation...

I like airline seating, when I'm travelling alone I'd far rather not sit opposite strangers.

 

[Bikeman78]

1715 was eight cars when I used it on Friday, that must have been an unscheduled short-form. It's normally my regular train home, but I was in Manchester Monday and Tuesday, so I'll be using it for the first time this week tonight. Will advise on formation...

I like airline seating, when I'm travelling alone I'd far rather not sit opposite strangers.

All eight sets of stock are electric today, two pairs of 365s, three single 365s, two pairs of 380s and a single 380.

 

[385001]

All eight sets of stock are electric today, two pairs of 365s, three single 365s, two pairs of 380s and a single 380.

Good news that all sets are electric. Shame about the single units but no doubt the 170s are needed elsewhere - probably for The Open.

Just a shame the 385s weren't available for this week. Hopefully next week!