Yes I'm curious too !
They have recently been refreshed slightly so aren't in bad condition and like the /4s have improved first class
Pure speculation, but what's the odds they end up being part of a mix that involves Hastings or Eastbourne to Brighton and/or the 313s?
I do find it quite astounding that perfectly good reliable EMUs are unwanted just sitting gathering dust when both the reliability and functionality of the class 700s is still greatly lacking and other TOCs have such a shortage of stock. No excuse for them not to be in service IMO.
they would need a few software tweeks before they go into service with anyone else, and rebranding inside and out so there maybe plans for them inevitable but ive heard no confirmed news.
Only about ten years old, so too new to be cascaded to The North.
They had SouthEastern and First Capital Connect maps inside from new when they did those through services to Ashford and maybe Rochester (?). The service changed operator en route, like the 319's to Sevenoaks did originally. I don't see why they can't just give these to SE now permanently instead of long term loaning them and then switching them for the 25 or so /1's they're going to get from SN. Unless the 3775xx can't interwork with 375's and the 3771xx can? That would explain why they wouldn't want a mix of both. I have seen the SE 3775's and they're fully rebranded and revinyled.
3 units now stored at Horsham after leaving TL (509, 510 and 512).
501-508 long term loan to Southeastern.
Any other news would be greatly appreciated
I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that the plan post-2018 timetable implementation was to use the 455s in the peaks and less so off-peak. That would necessitate greater use of 377s? I may have got wrong end of the stick.
How many 365 will remain?
Maybe they. Could give them to gn to pretty much standardise their non metro fleet
Perhaps the new Southeastern franchise will replace all 465/466s with newer redundant stock (with perhaps some new build also ordered).
Put the 377/5s to work on Victoria-Maidstone-Ashford-Canterbury West workings and free up the 465/9s to strengthen metro services
Not a chance. All are having their toilets made 2020 compliant. They may however be removed from all non-metro work to bolster existing metro train lengths.Shocked those 465s have their original flooring still
Didn't Southeastern apply to lease a significantly higher number of 4 car EMUs, only to have the DfT reject their plan on the basis of there being nowhere to maintain or stable them?
One does wonder why more than 8 units couldn't go to work for Southeastern, either on lease or a long-term loan. Perhaps more will do. Perhaps the Southeastern bidders will be proposing taking them all on permanently.
Could they be fitted with TVM430 and modified pantograph for South Eastern services on High Speed 1.
You've answered your own question already
Which question? It's not as if expansions in depot capacity are particularly difficult. The next Southeastern franchise will need to come up with a solution to this regardless of whether they take the /5 on or not.
Which question? It's not as if expansions in depot capacity are particularly difficult. The next Southeastern franchise will need to come up with a solution to this regardless of whether they take the /5 on or not.
Greater use of 377s, that will have been released by the introduction of 700s onto existing Southern services