westcoaster
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That's doesn't quite add up to twelve...
12 units would be the whole /5 fleet. More likely 3 units 12 coaches.
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12 units would be the whole /5 fleet. More likely 3 units 12 coaches.
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Mordac
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Indeed, that's what I had interpreted it as, although it did seem weird that the whole remaining fleet would leave at this stage, it feels even weirder to refer to 3 units as 12.
Mordac
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Fair enough then, thanks for the clarification, didn't know that.
They often don't show the sub cass...well Southern don't.
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TBM Rail Carriage Refurbishment
17 July 2017
TBM Rail commences major carriage refurbishment
Crewe-based TBM Rail has begun a complete refurbishment of passenger grab poles, rails and handles for the Southern (GTR) fleet of Class 377 vehicles.
The upgrade work involves sand-blasting the old polyester layers, before applying a new coating of Nylon R-AG from TBM Rail’s powder-coating partner, Omnikote.
The project will see nearly 700 carriages overhauled across three years, with vehicles only out of traffic for a week to lessen the impact on service users.
The Cheshire passenger comfort specialist supplied coatings for Southern’s carriage fittings seven years ago, but increasing customer numbers now demands tougher, harder-wearing surfaces.
Neil Smith, TBM Rail director, said: “We were asked to source and provide a solution to the ageing polyester coatings that in today’s climate are no longer fit for purpose.
“Rail passengers quite rightly demand higher carriage standards. Chipped and damaged poles and handles is not acceptable. Nylon R-AG is resistant to most damage.
“Train operators are under pressure on many levels, so raising carriage standards is a step in the right direction.
“Our industry experience and partnership with Omnikote has enabled us to deliver a top product that will last, look good and prevent costly mid-franchise repairs.
“Securing the contract to work with Southern again shows the confidence in our products and services.”
The upgrade affects all three and four-unit class 377 sets that operate on Southern services.
TBM Rail will also replace rubber, silicone and neoprene gaskets during the refurbishment
TBM Rail Carriage Refurbishment
17 July 2017
TBM Rail commences major carriage refurbishment
Crewe-based TBM Rail has begun a complete refurbishment of passenger grab poles, rails and handles for the Southern (GTR) fleet of Class 377 vehicles.
The upgrade work involves sand-blasting the old polyester layers, before applying a new coating of Nylon R-AG from TBM Rail’s powder-coating partner, Omnikote.
The project will see nearly 700 carriages overhauled across three years, with vehicles only out of traffic for a week to lessen the impact on service users.
The Cheshire passenger comfort specialist supplied coatings for Southern’s carriage fittings seven years ago, but increasing customer numbers now demands tougher, harder-wearing surfaces.
Neil Smith, TBM Rail director, said: “We were asked to source and provide a solution to the ageing polyester coatings that in today’s climate are no longer fit for purpose.
“Rail passengers quite rightly demand higher carriage standards. Chipped and damaged poles and handles is not acceptable. Nylon R-AG is resistant to most damage.
“Train operators are under pressure on many levels, so raising carriage standards is a step in the right direction.
“Our industry experience and partnership with Omnikote has enabled us to deliver a top product that will last, look good and prevent costly mid-franchise repairs.
“Securing the contract to work with Southern again shows the confidence in our products and services.”
The upgrade affects all three and four-unit class 377 sets that operate on Southern services.
TBM Rail will also replace rubber, silicone and neoprene gaskets during the refurbishment
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Have noticed a few in a bad state.
TT-ONR-NRN
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How is their first class different?
same as /4
sliding door and plug points plus a glass overhead luggage rack instead of plastic with holes
hopefully the squeaky tables can be sorted one of the reasons I never sit in the center cars although the narrowness of the aisles may be another..
sliding door and plug points plus a glass overhead luggage rack instead of plastic with holes
hopefully the squeaky tables can be sorted one of the reasons I never sit in the center cars although the narrowness of the aisles may be another..
fgwrich
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I quite liked this line "The Cheshire passenger comfort specialist supplied coatings for Southerns carriage fittings seven years ago, but increasing customer numbers now demands tougher, harder-wearing surfaces". Coming from Desiro land where the interior panels still look like new, I find it funny that this will be the 377s third refurbishment already. Not least the increasing passenger numbers / increasing passenger vandalism?
Was probably done on the cheap before.....
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Bletchleyite
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The build quality and materials quality in Electrostars certainly seems lower than Desiros, which (in LM's case) just need new carpets, foams and seat covers.
WiFi installation I'm told.
but for which TOC?!!!
They have no depot space apparently...unless that has all changed
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You'll be able to find out when you go near it and it says "TOC_Wifi" .. like the GatEx units have "GatwickExpress_Wifi"
Mordac
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So what units did leave on Sunday?
I was told they can take around 10 extra no problem. Around 20 would mean £2 million depot upgrade. More than that (as was expected late 2017) has an unknown cost - probably too high until the next franchise.
But 10 stabled at Victoria should be no problems and even 20 is low-ish cost.
well 377502 and 512 were coupled together in selhurst depot today if that says anything....
that 377's can be coupled together in a depot? I'm sure you will see many formations in depot's that don't exist in passenger service
that 377's can be coupled together in a depot? I'm sure you will see many formations in depot's that don't exist in passenger service
ha ha yeh, im just wonder if thats a sign lol
Given that one is leased to SE and one isn't...
Trainspotter74
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Apparently these are still in service another week and will finish next Sunday.
It probably will be more subdued but I will miss the 377s more than the 319s and hopefully they get a good send off. Could somebody 'in the know' kindly post the diagrams for the 377s this week/weekend?
not sure they will get a send off at all. With electrostar variants everywhere else of the river, its not really the "end of an era" like the 319s were.
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