Class 377/5 Southeastern

[387star]

Are the west mids franchise replacing the 319

 

[MatthewRead]

Will probably never happen , but what would the chances be of the 377/5 units going to LM / Abeillo to replace the remaining 319 units ?

I think it would be more logical to replace them with 350/4's or 360's!

 

[D365]

No chance, the Abellio West Midlands franchise is bringing in new rolling stock.

 

[ScotGG]

Give them to SE! I think that's the liklihood but a shame its taken so long. This weeks coming London Bridge closure will mean services that do run will be packed but many 12-car services aren't possible as SE use 376s and Networkers without SDO.

 

[wls1]

Leaves more questions when c2c are due 9x 4 car trains in 2019 and as far as I'm aware nothing has been ordered, which could suggest they'll have to be older trains?

 

[physics34]

Give them to SE! I think that's the liklihood but a shame its taken so long. This weeks coming London Bridge closure will mean services that do run will be packed but many 12-car services aren't possible as SE use 376s and Networkers without SDO.

Some rumours floating around that they may get 3 more. Still got that issue of space in southeastern land though.

 

[ScotGG]

Some rumours floating around that they may get 3 more. Still got that issue of space in southeastern land though.

Just 3?!

It's only £2 million for 20 according to Gibb Report. Stabling half that number can be accommodated at Victoria

 

[physics34]

Just 3?!

It's only £2 million for 20 according to Gibb Report. Stabling half that number can be accommodated at Victoria

Thats still 2mil that no one wants to splash out...although something might happen when the franchise gets renewed... and the gibb recommends giving them 20 of southerns /1s with southern keeping the /5 for MKs.

 

[Mikey C]

Thats still 2mil that no one wants to splash out...although something might happen when the franchise gets renewed... and the gibb recommends giving them 20 of southerns /1s with southern keeping the /5 for MKs.

About time the Kent MPs got their collective a*ses in gear to demand the money is spent.

 

[Class 466]

Following on from 377501- 508s transfer in December, the rest of the Ex-Thameslink 377/5s will join them over the next few weeks.

377511 & 518 will tonight transfer from Selhurst Depot to Victoria Grosvenor Shed with another two to follow tomorrow.

Primary usage will be on the Maidstone East line to displace 465s. Maintenance will continue at Selhurst as at present.

(Created new thread as the other is now closed and less specific)

 

[SF-02]

How many is that in total?

And the same number of Networker services strengthened?

 

[Roast Veg]

11 units total: 377513-23

What's the current status of the other 377/5?

 

[MCR247]

Stored at Horsham or in use

 

[Roast Veg]

Just noticed that 377511 was included, so the total is actually 12 units.

 

[Trainspotter74]

Are the remaining four units in use with Thameslink still due to go out of service this weekend?

 

[physics34]

Following on from 377501- 508s transfer in December, the rest of the Ex-Thameslink 377/5s will join them over the next few weeks.

377511 & 518 will tonight transfer from Selhurst Depot to Victoria Grosvenor Shed with another two to follow tomorrow.

Primary usage will be on the Maidstone East line to displace 465s. Maintenance will continue at Selhurst as at present.

(Created new thread as the other is now closed and less specific)

thats a shame Should be used to replace the 313s.

 

[SF-02]

Are the 313 served areas seeing as high population growth as SE London?

 

[Class455]

thats a shame Should be used to replace the 313s.

They could use 319's for that purpose.....

 

[387star]

Thought there wasn't enough storage space
Will.they be used on doo only routes
Will they lose their southern interiors. .not a priority I know but southeastern favour lino not carpet in the vestibules for instance ??????
Hopefully the 3+2 can be altered to a more suitable arrangement

The layout should be scrapped creates Congestion and the seats look tatty from luggage hitting the metal sides

 

[Roast Veg]

None of the 377/5 currently used have had the interiors redone to my knowledge, only the exteriors (which are in full new SE livery except with the SE Blue replaced by FCC purple).

Also as an aside I'm pretty sure the 313s need replacing with 3 or 6 car stock of a similar length. Only an internal cascade of almost all the 377/3s would achieve that, and they're in high demand on suburban London services at present.

 

[physics34]

Thought there wasn't enough storage space
Will.they be used on doo only routes
Will they lose their southern interiors. .not a priority I know but southeastern favour lino not carpet in the vestibules for instance ��
Hopefully the 3+2 can be altered to a more suitable arrangement

The layout should be scrapped creates Congestion and the seats look tatty from luggage hitting the metal sides

i doubt they will lose their southern interiors as they will still be leased by Southern (sub-leased to Southeastern).

Wholly agree with the 3+2 seating being changed but i doubt thatll happen either.

 

[Class 466]

Another two should come over tonight, will most likely be 377509/521. Entry into service should be around the 11th September with 2 am peak departures From Ashford increasing from a 4 car 465 to 8 377

 

[physics34]

Another two should come over tonight, will most likely be 377509/521. Entry into service should be around the 11th September with 2 am peak departures From Ashford increasing from a 4 car 465 to 8 377

getting the same vinyl treatment?

 

[ScotGG]

What services are strengthened by the freed up Networkers?

 

[Class 466]

getting the same vinyl treatment?

Believe they will do, yes.

 

[Class 466]

What services are strengthened by the freed up Networkers?

Victoria - Orpington/Dartford mainly and some Cannon St - Dartford via Greenwich services

 

[387star]

How do they get to selhurst is that southern drivers taking them.there

 

[387star]

Via herne hill I guess or new cross gate

 

[physics34]

Via herne hill I guess or new cross gate

or via Norbury. I believe some southeastern drivers sign Vic to Selhurst depot.

 

[samuelmorris]

I'm a little out of touch here - have the long-discussed storage issues that prevented these units being used earlier finally been resolved?