Class 380 Refurbishment and Updates

[Scotrail314209]

Not sure if there is already a thread on this subject (admins, feel free to merge if this is the case!)

Scotrail have now commenced work on refreshing the Class 380 fleet ahead of their 10 year anniversary.

Changes include:
New Flooring
New seat upholstery including new priority seating fabric (similar to what is found on the 385s)
General repairs to tables, armrests, bins and handrails as well as an exterior paint refresh.

I've made this thread solely to keep track of what units have been done. A unit should be released every 2 weeks or so.

Link here: https://www.scotrail.co.uk/about-scotrail/news/work-begins-class-380-train-‘makeover’

Image shows the disabled toilet area on a newly refreshed Class 380.

If anyone could post up if they see one of the refreshed units, just reply so I can list what ones have been done.

 

[Journeyman]

That press release claims 380s work the North Berwick branch. I thought that was 385-worked now? I haven't seen a 380 in Edinburgh for ages.

 

[Scotrail314209]

That press release claims 380s work the North Berwick branch. I thought that was 385-worked now? I haven't seen a 380 in Edinburgh for ages.

A couple of them run down during the day. Pretty sure it's to retain the knowledge.

380s do run scheduled services into Edinburgh during the day. The Carstairs services are mainly 380, with the Shotts line having one 4 car 380 to replace the previous double 156.

One diagram starts in the morning on the 06:47 North Berwick - Edinburgh before heading through to Glasgow on the 07:41. That then works the Carstairs services all day.

There is also a 4 car 380 alternating between North Berwick and Dunbar all day. Anything on RTT down North Berwick as a 4 car should be a 380.

 

[Journeyman]

A couple of them run down during the day. Pretty sure it's to retain the knowledge.

380s do run scheduled services into Edinburgh during the day. The Carstairs services are mainly 380, with the Shotts line having one 4 car 380 to replace the previous double 156.

Ah, right, OK. I'll tell my son, he likes them.

 

[Scotrail314209]

Ah, right, OK. I'll tell my son, he likes them.

Edited my post above to give you a general idea of the services.

 

[Journeyman]

Thanks.

 

[Scotrail314209]

380 Refresh scheme 2020 - List of refurbished/unrefurbished units - updated 23/09/2020

Bold indicates the unit has been completed and is now in service.

Class 380/0

380001 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380002 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380003 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380004 - In Service, unrefurbished
380005 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380006 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380007 - In Service, Refurbished (23/09/2020)
380008 - In service, unrefurbished
380009 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380010 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380011 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380012 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380013 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380014 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380015 - Shields Road TMD for refurbishment - entered 22/09/2020
380016 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380017 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380018 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380019 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380020 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380021 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380022 - In Service, Unrefurbished

Class 380/1

380101 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380102 - In Service, Unrefurbished with leather seating upholstery left behind due to the failed trial of bringing temporary First Class onto the 380s.
380103 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380104 - In service, unrefurbished
380105 - In Service, Unrefurbished with leather seating upholstery left behind due to the failed trial of bringing temporary First Class onto the 380s.
380106 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380107 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380108 - In service, unrefurbished
380109 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380110 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380111 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380112 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380113 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380114 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380115 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380116 - Unknown (23/09/2020)

Can anyone shed some light on what unit may be in Shields getting the work done at the moment as Scotrail did share an image of the refresh online as posted above. Does anyone also know the whereabouts of the units marked as unknown?

 

[route101]

Interesting, i didnt think the 380s were that bad inside. I suppose it only seems recently they were new!

 

[XAM2175]

380 004 is currently allocated to 1K60 Ayr - GLC (departing 1945)
380 008 is currently allocated to 1K56 Ayr - GLC (departed 1850)
380 104 is currently allocated to 2T26 Largs - GLC (departed 1852)
380 108 is currently allocated to 1C58 GLC - Edinburgh (last reported at Edinburgh at 1508)
380 116 appears to not be currently allocated.

 

[InOban]

https://twitter.com/ScotRail/status/1308868238147641344?s=19

This should allow another poster to work out which is the first refurbished set since it says which service it operated.

 

[CR165022]

380007 is Refurbished and out in service

 

[superalbs]

Just a tidy up really then. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

 

[Ben Conlin]

380 Refresh scheme 2020 - List of refurbished/unrefurbished units - updated 23/09/2020

Bold indicates the unit has been completed and is now in service.

Class 380/0

380001 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380002 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380003 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380004 - Unknown (23/09/2020)
380005 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380006 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380007 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380008 - Unknown (23/09/2020)
380009 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380010 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380011 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380012 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380013 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380014 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380015 - In Service, Unrefurbished with LED internal lights
380016 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380017 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380018 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380019 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380020 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380021 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380022 - In Service, Unrefurbished

Class 380/1

380101 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380102 - In Service, Unrefurbished with leather seating upholstery left behind due to the failed trial of bringing temporary First Class onto the 380s.
380103 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380104 - Unknown (23/09/2020)
380105 - In Service, Unrefurbished with leather seating upholstery left behind due to the failed trial of bringing temporary First Class onto the 380s.
380106 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380107 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380108 - Unknown (23/09/2020)
380109 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380110 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380111 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380112 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380113 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380114 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380115 - In Service, Unrefurbished
380116 - Unknown (23/09/2020)

Can anyone shed some light on what unit may be in Shields getting the work done at the moment as Scotrail did share an image of the refresh online as posted above. Does anyone also know the whereabouts of the units marked as unknown?

What’s the difference between the normal lights and the LED ones in 015?

 

[Scotrail314209]

List updated

 

[ScottGallagher]

Interesting, i didnt think the 380s were that bad inside. I suppose it only seems recently they were new!

I've not been on a 380, but not a bad outcome compared to a 465 interior which I believe still have their Network Southeast 1992 flooring !! ( as of my 2016 travels )

 

[route101]

I've not been on a 380, but not a bad outcome compared to a 465 interior which I believe still have their Network Southeast 1992 flooring !! ( as of my 2016 travels )

380s dont have carpets, kinda prefer carpets.

 

[Scotrail88]

Are LEDs being installed internally in this refurb program - know some have already been done

 

[Scotrail314209]

Are LEDs being installed internally in this refurb program - know some have already been done

It'd make sense if there was, however it wasn't specified. The article only specified some of what was going to happen with the refresh. If anyone catches 380007 then let us know what's changed internally.

380007 workings today:
2G02 - 06:25 Gourock to Glasgow Central
2M78 07:45 Glasgow Central - Newton via Shawlands
2P09 08:20 Newton - Glasgow Central via Queen's Park
2I23 09:16 Cathcart Circle
2O26 09:51 Cathcart Circle
2G65 11:38 Glasgow Central - Gourock
2G42 12:38 Gourock - Glasgow Central
2G53 13:36 Glasgow Central - Gourock
2G54 14:38 Gourock - Glasgow Central
1G31 17:27 Glasgow Central - Gourock (paired with 380012)
1G76 18:21 Gourock - Glasgow Central
1K57 19:30 Glasgow Central - Ayr
5K57 20:24 Ayr - Ayr C.S.D.

 

[SC318250]

Are the 380s not due an exterior repaint?

 

[hexagon789]

Interesting, i didnt think the 380s were that bad inside. I suppose it only seems recently they were new!

10 years in front line service takes its toll, though other than worn seat fabrics and the still 'iffy' ride quality they've not aged too badly.

 

[Ben Conlin]

Anyone know what routes 102 and 105 operate. Interested to see the hybrid seats

 

[Scotrail314209]

Anyone know what routes 102 and 105 operate. Interested to see the hybrid seats

They operate all 380 operated routes:

Glasgow - Ayr/Ardrossan/Largs
Glasgow - Gourock/Wemyss Bay
Glasgow - Neilston/Newton & Cathcart Circle
Edinburgh - Glasgow via Shotts
Edinburgh - Glasgow via Carstairs
Edinburgh - North Berwick/Dunbar

If you are after specific units, just look on RTT and check services on those routes

 

[CR165022]

Are the 380s not due an exterior repaint?

Wouldn't think so as the livery would be the exact same

 

[Scotrail314209]

Are the 380s not due an exterior repaint?

Wouldn't think so as the livery would be the exact same

They may well be due a paint refresh as one of the things mentioned was some new paint. A few of the 380s I've seen today are beginning to look very tatty on the exterior, particularly around the doors.

 

[Ben Conlin]

They operate all 380 operated routes:

Glasgow - Ayr/Ardrossan/Largs
Glasgow - Gourock/Wemyss Bay
Glasgow - Neilston/Newton & Cathcart Circle
Edinburgh - Glasgow via Shotts
Edinburgh - Glasgow via Carstairs
Edinburgh - North Berwick/Dunbar

If you are after specific units, just look on RTT and check services on those routes

Cheers

 

[Scotrail314209]

380007 workings today (25/09/2020):

Today’s workings may be subject to change due to signalling problems at Glengarnock

5T00 - 05:02 Ayr CSD to Largs
1T00 06:42 Largs to Kilwinning (vice Glasgow Central due to signalling problems)
2T03 07:53 Kilwinning to Largs
1T36 09:53 Largs to Paisley Gilmour Street
2K69 10:44 Paisley Gilmour Street to Ayr
5K69 11:37 Ayr to Ayr C.S.D.

Does anyone know if another unit has gone into Shields Road TMD for the refurbishment?

 

[SC318250]

380007 has worked the
1426 from Ayr to Glasgow Central

now working
1525 Glasgow Central to Gourock
Then booked
1627 to Glasgow Central
1717 to Ayr (front set with 114 on rear)
1825 to Glasgow Central (rear set)
2030 to Ayr (front set)
2145 to Glasgow Central (rear set)
2300 to Ayr (front set)
Ecs to Townhead CS

reported on Scot-rail another unit is stripped down inside at Shields

 

[Scotrail314209]

380007 has worked the
1426 from Ayr to Glasgow Central

now working
1525 Glasgow Central to Gourock
Then booked
1627 to Glasgow Central
1717 to Ayr (front set with 114 on rear)
1825 to Glasgow Central (rear set)
2030 to Ayr (front set)
2145 to Glasgow Central (rear set)
2300 to Ayr (front set)
Ecs to Townhead CS

reported on Scot-rail another unit is stripped down inside at Shields

Looks like they got the diagrams back in place after what happened with the signalling problems this morning?

 

[Journeyman]

10 years in front line service takes its toll, though other than worn seat fabrics and the still 'iffy' ride quality they've not aged too badly.

They certainly have nice interiors that get all the fundamentals right. A refresh will be very welcome, and keep them pleasant to travel in. I certainly think they're better than the 385s.

 

[Scotrail314209]

They certainly have nice interiors that get all the fundamentals right. A refresh will be very welcome, and keep them pleasant to travel in. I certainly think they're better than the 385s.

I definitely agree! I took a good look at the 380s I was on yesterday. Generally still in a decent condition, but some poles have bits chipped away at the bottom, the tables have dents in the edges and some of the seat coverings are threadbare, mainly the window seats however! Externally they aren't too bad, but some of them look a bit more worn than others.