Class 395 - Javelins

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All of SE's Class 395s are having a vinyl added to the side of the train at the front as shown here...



These are to show they are the Javelin services for the Olympics. Ladies and gentlemen, you can now rightly call these trains the Javelins.
 
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Interesting, they are physically branding them. Is that the only part if the train to receive the branding as its a little out of the way.
 

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As far as I know, that's the only bit to receive the branding, although I should imagine it's on both sides and at both ends? It's out of the way, but it's the first thing you'll notice when the train arrives.

Interestingly, Boris Johnson has recorded announcements that will play at SE stations from next week (3rd July) until after the Paralympic Games (9th September), advising people where to go for travel advice. Not sure if many people will be able to cope with announcements from Boris for 2 months, but we'll see...
 

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Only one unit - 395026 - has so far had the 'Javelin' branding applied to one of the PDTSOs.

And 395s have been called Javelin's since their introduction some 3 years ago!
Yep, but I got the impression this branding would be applied to all.

Well, they were only 'nicknamed' Javelins since their introduction - they were never actually called Javelins, just scheduled for the Javelin service. Now they are called Javelins, or at least for the period of the Olympics.
 

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Interesting, they are physically branding them. Is that the only part if the train to receive the branding as its a little out of the way.
I have to wonder though, how much it's going to cost to do this to the fleet (and im not talking how much is a sheet of vinyl, more for the stylised font). :lol:

As for the Boris announcements. Enjoy people of South Eastern, while i dislike Annoying Annie & Celia, the thought of the Boris announcements is even worse!
 

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Only one unit - 395026 - has so far had the 'Javelin' branding applied to one of the PDTSOs.

And 395s have been called Javelin's since their introduction some 3 years ago!
Yep, but I got the impression this branding would be applied to all.

Well, they were only 'nicknamed' Javelins since their introduction - they were never actually called Javelins, just scheduled for the Javelin service. Now they are called Javelins, or at least for the period of the Olympics.
Correct. Term Javelin is an Olympic trademark. The name only applies technically to the St Pancras - Stratford - Ebbesfleet shuttles.

I have to wonder though, how much it's going to cost to do this to the fleet (and im not talking how much is a sheet of vinyl, more for the stylised font). :lol:

As for the Boris announcements. Enjoy people of South Eastern, while i dislike Annoying Annie & Celia, the thought of the Boris announcements is even worse!
I'm sure it's tied into the budgets and we'll never know.

Thought of Boris announcements is scary at best!
 

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Hmmm... Boris taking ages to say all the stations and then getting it all wrong...

...Or Atos Anne?

Let's start a campaign to get Boris nationwide!
 

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From what I gather, yes. All SE stations will hear announcements by Boris, advising people where to go to get travel advice. Boris will not be announcing train arrivals etc, just where to get travel advice. A bit like you get a random man announcing to report suspicious items to BTP or staff.

Read the last paragraph of this. http://www.southeasternrailway.co.u...avelin-service-marks-one-month-left-to-games/
 

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Hmmm... Boris taking ages to say all the stations and then getting it all wrong...

...Or Atos Anne?

Let's start a campaign to get Boris nationwide!
Could be useful in the event of the Olympics turning into an invasion, kind of like mixing up the road signs in WWII to confuse German invasion forces.
 

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Anyone going to be recording Bozz's special announcements? And I like the Javelin branding; I'm guessing that's partially why the 395 fleet was ordered?
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I assume Boris will be talking at St. Pancras and Stratford Intl. :lol:
 

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Seems to make the livery slightly more interesting. Is there any particular reason why they have such a boring livery? I'd always assumed it was just the base colour for something to go on top, but nothing ever did.
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Correct. Term Javelin is an Olympic trademark. !
Does that mean that Lord Coe and LOCOG will be taking retrospective action for copyright infringement against Alexander Dennis?
 

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Question: During the Olympics the High Speed Services are going to Ashford Only except the Olympics Shuttles.
BTW i leave near the Hitachi High Speed Depot in Ashford and ive seen 3 or 4 'Javelin Trains'.
 

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Where's the question in that?!

And just look in the timetable, that's what most people who will answer it will have to do?
 

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Does that mean that Lord Coe and LOCOG will be taking retrospective action for copyright infringement against Alexander Dennis?
No as it's not a LOCOG trademark but one of the IOC.

And if you quote me in the future can you not add bits to my quote, goes against the whole idea of a discussion if you edit what you disagree/comment on.

Question: During the Olympics the High Speed Services are going to Ashford Only except the Olympics Shuttles.
BTW i leave near the Hitachi High Speed Depot in Ashford and ive seen 3 or 4 'Javelin Trains'.
You haven't see any Javelin trains, you seen Class 395 units. Javelin is the offical name for the Olympic Park shuttle, not the HS1 services.
 

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No as it's not a LOCOG trademark but one of the IOC.

And if you quote me in the future can you not add bits to my quote, goes against the whole idea of a discussion if you edit what you disagree/comment on.



You haven't see any Javelin trains, you seen Class 395 units. Javelin is the offical name for the Olympic Park shuttle, not the HS1 services.
Members of the public call them Javelins - it amuses me that so many enthusiasts support the IOC in banning the name. After all come September there will be nothing to stop the Javelin brand being used as the Olympic trademark protection expires after the games...
 

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No as it's not a LOCOG trademark but one of the IOC.

And if you quote me in the future can you not add bits to my quote, goes against the whole idea of a discussion if you edit what you disagree/comment on. .


I'm sorry? What bits did I add to your quote? What was there in what I said to take exception to? The point of editing what one quotes is if one only wishes to comment on a particular bit, it saves space.



{is puzzled :|}
 

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I'm sorry? What bits did I add to your quote? What was there in what I said to take exception to? The point of editing what one quotes is if one only wishes to comment on a particular bit, it saves space.

{is puzzled :|}
There was an extra ! mark in my wuoye which seemed to be suggestive (but not I'm not so sure) that either you thought it was a mad statement or something was missing.

Does that mean that Lord Coe and LOCOG will be taking retrospective action for copyright infringement against Alexander Dennis?
Ah it does seem my first reply was incorrect, the term Javelin is a trademark of the LOCOG it seems.


Members of the public call them Javelins - it amuses me that so many enthusiasts support the IOC in banning the name. After all come September there will be nothing to stop the Javelin brand being used as the Olympic trademark protection expires after the games...
You seriously know someone who has no interest in the railway but calls them Javelin's? I think most public call them blue trains from what I've experienced.
 

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You seriously know someone who has no interest in the railway but calls them Javelin's? I think most public call them blue trains from what I've experienced.
I've had a few enquiries about them at work using the Javelin name, they might be enthusiasts but they seemed normal (by the standards of work) I know there has been a concerted effort to stop the name catching on prior to the Olympics...
 

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You seriously know someone who has no interest in the railway but calls them Javelin's? I think most public call them blue trains from what I've experienced.
Most people here, and many places where they run, call them Highspeed trains. But I have heard them called the blue trains often.
 

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Most people here, and many places where they run, call them Highspeed trains. But I have heard them called the blue trains often.
To be far we in work all call them Javelin's but technically we're all wrong!

Oh no, it was just a random bit of punctuation which I left in. i wasn't trying to insinuate anything, don't worry.
Ah cool. Glad that's cleared up.

I've had a few enquiries about them at work using the Javelin name, they might be enthusiasts but they seemed normal (by the standards of work) I know there has been a concerted effort to stop the name catching on prior to the Olympics...
My little brothers used to call them blue trains. They used to get so excited over them!
 
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