Class 397 TPE "Nova 2" Diagrams

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Good morning

We seem to have been tipped off by Jack Brown in the other thread that two return workings to Glasgow and two return workings to Edinburgh will be worked with 397s starting Monday 25th.

Therefore, a dedicated thread for diagrams is here.

(this is assuming one hasn’t already been made; I don’t think one has)
 
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JonathanH

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Monday 25th,
07:10 and 15:10 Airport - Glasgow
08:10 and 16:10 Airport - Edinburgh

Subject to change....
Certainly seems consistent with VAR schedules off and on to Longsight

5S35 0618 Longsight Car. M.D. to Manchester Airport
1S35 0710 Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central
1M96 1109 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport
1S71 1510 Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central
1M94 1908 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport
5S98 2310 Manchester Airport to Preston Croft Street Sdgs

5M99 0541 Preston C.S. to Lancaster
1M99 0628 Lancaster to Manchester Airport
1S38 0810 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh
1M97 1212 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport
1S75 1610 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh
1M95 2011 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport
5W95 0002 Manchester Airport to Longsight Car. M.D.
 

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Still showing set coming off Longsight and not Ardwick for Monday!!
Yes, same all week, but as we have seen with the 68+Mk5s, it is very straightforward to run the ECS from Ardwick instead using the existing rolling stock on a short term plan basis.
 

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I would hope they will bring them in soon but I am now confused as some are saying there isn't gonna be a service on Monday but multiple people yesterday told me there is gonna be a service on Monday fingers crossed there is and if not soon
 

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Who exactly was telling you it's Monday?
As noted upthread the VAR schedules still indicate that the ECS working 5S35 for the 0710 from Manchester Airport comes from Longsight rather than Ardwick

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y00963/2019-11-25/detailed

and 5W95 off the 2011 from Edinburgh (which earlier works the 0810 from the Airport) goes to Longsight rather than Ardwick so it is no great secret that 397 operation was planned (or should we say facilitated) for Monday.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y80704/2019-11-26/detailed

Everyone also knows that just because a schedule exists doesn't mean the operator won't change it, particularly in the early days.

From what has been posted it just seems that they aren't ready and will be using 185s or 350s from Ardwick instead.
 

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As noted upthread the VAR schedules still indicate that the ECS working 5S35 for the 0710 from Manchester Airport comes from Longsight rather than Ardwick

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y00963/2019-11-25/detailed

and 5W95 off the 2011 from Edinburgh (which earlier works the 0810 from the Airport) goes to Longsight rather than Ardwick so it is no great secret that 397 operation was planned (or should we say facilitated) for Monday.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y80704/2019-11-26/detailed

Everyone also knows that just because a schedule exists doesn't mean the operator won't change it, particularly in the early days.

From what has been posted it just seems that they aren't ready and will be using 185s or 350s from Ardwick instead.
Yeah that seems like the probable thing that they will do
 

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As long as TPE actually run a passenger service with whatever, Class 185, 350, 397 and don't cancel a service train, leaving passengers to fend for themselves again and run a training train in it's place due to lack of qualified staff, like they did a few times with the Nova 3 services.
 

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Well i hope Nova 2 Driver/guard training is going better than the Nova 1 training and the farce with the services today.
Only 3 weeks until timetable change.
 

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A 185 on the 0710 from Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central again this morning according to TPE journey check (and similarly on the 0500 Manchester Piccadilly to Glasgow Central)
 

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It's getting closer.... ;)
Not today though

185113 on 1S35 0710 Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central

350408 on 1S38 0810 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh

and

185150 on 1M94 0906 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport

(which given the Preston start and what it did yesterday was probably in line for 1S38 had they not added a 350 to the back of 1S32 0610 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh to start its previous working from Preston).
 
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Not today though

185113 on 1S35 0710 Manchester Airport to Glasgow Central

350408 on 1S38 0810 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh

and

185150 on 1M94 0906 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport

(which given the Preston start and what it did yesterday was probably in line for 1S38 had they not added a 350 to the back of 1S32 0610 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh to start its previous working from Preston).
That's because 350404 and 350405 are going south on Saturday via Chat Moss then south.
 

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