Class 397 TPE "Nova 2" Diagrams

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  1. InOban

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    Why were they planned to terminate at Lockerbie? The Christmas works finished this morning.
     
  2. LBOTG

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    Any diagrams for today?
     
  3. Alasdair Clift

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    According to TPE on Twitter:
    397003
    1M99 0628 LAN-MIA
    1S38 0807 MIA-CAR
    1M97 1333 CAR-MIA
    1S75 1607 MIA-EDB
    1M95 2011 EDB-MIA

    397006
    1S35 0726 MAN-CAR
    1M96 1233 CAR-MIA
    1S71 1510 MIA-GLC
    1M94 1908 GLC-MIA
    1S98 2310 MIA-PRE
     
  4. SWTrainspottin

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    Nova 2 - 2nd January

    Just the one diagram today.

    397003
    5M99, 1M99, 1S38, 1M97, 1S75, 1M95, 5H95

    *Subject to usual issues.
     
  5. Jamesrob637

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    Better be a few more come Monday!
     
  6. 92002

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    Still considerable issues with trained staff to operate these. With trains being covered with 3 car 185s or not running at all.

    With all the 397 fleet delivered its not rocket science to have a training plan in place.
     
  7. Prudhoe

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    early trains today

    1M90 350
    1M91 350
    1S35 NOVA
    1S41 185
    1S38 CANCELLED
    1M93 350 LNWR
    1M83 185
     
  8. Prudhoe

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    Novas today

    1S38 etc
    1M94 etc
     
  9. snail

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    It would help the less informed (me) if the origin and time were included. I don't know how to find out which train is 1S38...
     
  10. JonathanH

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    1S38 0807 Manchester Airport to Edinburgh
    https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y33420/2020-01-04/detailed

    To be fair to the previous poster, it should be possible to read just a short distance up the thread to find out what '1S38' is (indeed no more than six posts) and also, these things only run one route so searching in RTT for Preston https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/PRE/2020-01-04/0200-0159?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt and pressing Crtl+F and typing 1S38 is enough to find out what the train is.
     
  11. 92002

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    Also Nova today 0507 MIA to GLC
    0912 return
    And 1307 MIA to GLC
    1712 Return 397003
     
  12. kc_

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    4 sets out today, or are those part of the same diagrams as before?
     
  13. JonathanH

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    Same as before - 2 sets out - 1M94 is 0907 Glasgow Central to Manchester Airport
     
  14. _toommm_

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    On RealTimeTrains, if you go into the search bar at the top of the page (rather than the normal one) you can search by headcodes too.
     
  15. Prudhoe

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    .....

     
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    Thank you, but this forum sometimes assumes too much internal knowledge of railway operations. If there is a convention to give full station names as well as their codes then I think courtesy should extend this to train codes too. Your explanation works but it's hardly intuitive.
     
  17. Prudhoe

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    There are 10 diagrams on MAN/LIV-GLAS/EDIN route today:

    Novas 2
    350-5
    185-3

    The Novas are same two as yesterday, which finished at Polmadie and Preston.
    The one from Preston started today on 5S46/1S46.
    The Polmadie one started on 1M96, leaving Glasgow 45 mins late so will probably terminate at Man Picc.
     
  18. route101

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    1910 from Glasgow was a 397 , first one ive seen up close at Glasgow.
     
  19. YorkshireBear

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    When do all the 350s go, i.e. When does the nova 2 need to start stepping up by?
     
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    Have TPE recently sent off another 350 or in the depot for maintenance?
     
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    There is normally 1 stopped for exam. Even when all 10 were with TPE they were never all in traffic at the same time.
     
  22. Robert Mann

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    Does anyone know the allocations for today please?
     
  23. MDB1images

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    Should be 2 out on usual diagrams (think it's 397003 & 005).
     
  24. Jamesrob637

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    There used to be a regular 8-car diagram on a Friday, leaving the Airport just before half 7 in the morning. Not sure though whether this pushed a 185 onto a Glasgow. I know there won't be regular 10-car 397 diagrams, however would this be stretched to 10 in times of the Edinburgh Festival and other such events?
     
  25. kc_

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    What's the reasoning behind these diagrams being selected for 397 running? I guess it's do with where the diagram starts and where these units are stabled, but are there any other factors?
     
  26. MDB1images

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    Not aware of any.
     
  27. Bletchleyite

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    Are platforms long enough for that, or do they do SDO? I suppose they could (and use 185s on the less busy Glasgows).
     
  28. johnpeter3

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    The insides of the coaches are marked up with coach letter indications suggesting they may run as 10 car, eg accessible toilets are in coaches X and Y (sorry didn't notice which specific coaches but definitely not both between A and E)
     
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    10 cars certainly can't operate from Manchester Airport, the platforms aren't long enough. A theoretical strengthening unit would have to attach en route if it was going to do so.
     
  30. railways45021

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    Lengthening them would require a track layout change wouldn't it
     

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