Class 442s - Now at the end of the road and to be withdrawn permanently

[white43306]

Hello, what services are the 442 running today please?

 

[Bletchleyite]

My children were quite alarmed when they encountered traditional UIC gangways at speed between Longueau and Paris the other week!

Interestingly the Class 230s are fitted with those (only UK stock so fitted), though they at least don't reach 200km/h!

Mk5s (at least the CS variety) probably have some leaks as those use "push together" gangways though of a more modern type.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Hello, what services are the 442 running today please?

They’ve come up from Southampton and will return on the 18.48 Poole

 

[white43306]

They’ve come up from Southampton and will return on the 18.48 Poole

Thanks. How do you know it is a 442 looking at RTT. Do you happen to know what the units do/where they go during the day?

 

[_toommm_]

Thanks. How do you know it is a 442 looking at RTT. Do you happen to know what the units do/where they go during the day?

At the moment, the 442s are running as a '9' headcode, in place of the normal '1' headcode (due to routeing restrictions), and the paths are put in as VSTPs (Very Short Term Plans).

For example: 9B88 in the morning, and 9B95 in the evening.

 

[swt_passenger]

Thanks. How do you know it is a 442 looking at RTT. Do you happen to know what the units do/where they go during the day?

They go to Clapham Yard and remain there between the peaks. The two services are minor parts of two separate eventual diagrams.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Thanks. How do you know it is a 442 looking at RTT. Do you happen to know what the units do/where they go during the day?

They are in Clapham Yard during the day.

 

[moley]

Well, day two and already being offered incorrect platform at Waterloo. Didn’t take long.

 

[Goldfish62]

Well, day two and already being offered incorrect platform at Waterloo. Didn’t take long.

Yes, that and the steamer being signalled in too early caused complete chaos in the AM Peak.

 

[pigs bay]

I just want to say "well done SWR, and Bournemouth depot for bringing back to service the most stylish and comfortable EMU ever after Gat Ex/Southern basically tried to kill them.

 

[winks]

I’m glad they’re back. Hoping to have a ride Sunday all being well. I travelled on them on the BML a couple of years ago and they were very snug and the lighting was dimmed. I hope SWR haven’t made it too bright and clinical !

 

[swt_passenger]

I’m glad they’re back. Hoping to have a ride Sunday all being well. I travelled on them on the BML a couple of years ago and they were very snug and the lighting was dimmed. I hope SWR haven’t made it too bright and clinical !

I’d be very surprised if there are any in use at all at weekends initially.

 

[winks]

As in the 1848 WAT. Sunday

 

[HamworthyGoods]

As in the 1848 WAT. Sunday

The 18.48 only runs Monday to Friday

 

[winks]

Ah ok. No weekend services ?

 

[Train Boy]

Ah ok. No weekend services ?

Not yet, but in the weeks and months to come there will be.

 

[700007]

For weekend services you should still have the 1818 Poole to London Waterloo every Sunday.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

For weekend services you should still have the 1818 Poole to London Waterloo every Sunday.

Indeed just not yet at the moment it’s 8-450

 

[RealTrains07]

Are the 442s expected to work waterloo-Portsmouth via guildford anytime soon? Or is it just poole services mainly?

 

[cactustwirly]

Are the 442s expected to work waterloo-Portsmouth via guildford anytime soon? Or is it just poole services mainly?

Once more staff are trained, and the teething issues are sorted, they should be rolled out onto Pompey direct services

 

[pompeyfan]

Week after the strikes should see a 2nd diagram introduced.

 

[_toommm_]

Just thought I'd share this video from Geoff Marshall:

 

[VEP3417]

nice to see them back after all this time, looking very smart i must say, they still make that humming noise when stopped at the station but it sounded different to me, not as low pitch as it used to be

 

[387star]

Very weird livery

 

[Rick1984]

It is a bit rubbish with only the yellow breaking up the monotony on the intermediate coaches

 

[Pacerman99]

Does anyone know the actual seating capacity of the units now? It was quoted somewhere as 338 standard, which seems rather a lot.

 

[pompeyfan]

442s have 338/32F so;

10.442 676/64F
10.444 666/64F
12.450 792/48F

The above is hidden in the 450 refurbishment thread. Hope that helps.

 

[VEP3417]

the carriages do look a bit different in all plain white, might look better with a grey/black/or blue to match the front roof

 

[Lockwood]

It does look strange in that livery, with the giant logo in the middle carriage.

I know people spoke ill of the one 444040 is in, disliking the stripes for some reason, but I like it - certainly compared to the revised SWR livery. The stripes were things happening - this looks unfinished and makes me think of that all white slam door unit that we had down here for a while

 

[Goldfish62]

It does look strange in that livery, with the giant logo in the middle carriage.

I know people spoke ill of the one 444040 is in, disliking the stripes for some reason, but I like it - certainly compared to the revised SWR livery. The stripes were things happening - this looks unfinished and makes me think of that all white slam door unit that we had down here for a while

The thing is with the striped livery you can easily see the vertical joins in the vinyl panels, and that's before they've had time to become worn.