Class 450s on Waterloo-Southampton Central Services

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Muzer

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Some of the Poole stoppers are (especially in the peaks, eg the 1839 from Waterloo that divides at Basingstoke), most of the peak-time extras are (ones that terminate/start at Southampton that aren't late night/very early morning services), and very few Weymouth services are 444+450. Sorry I can't be more specific right now.
 
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Hi, could someone please tell me what services between Waterloo and Southampton Central are formed of 450s please? Thanks

I can tell you what the working notice says, but I don't really want to copy out the whole day. Could you give me a time slot of a few hours please?
 
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Southampton 450s from Waterloo Mon-Fri

0612 Waterloo to Branksome 4-450
0840 Waterloo to Poole 12-450 (8 from Southampton to Poole)
1339 Waterloo to Poole 4-450
1439 Waterloo to Brockenhurst 4-450
1748 Waterloo to Southampton Central 8-450
1839 Waterloo to Poole/Fareham 8-450 splits Basingstoke
2105 Waterloo to Poole 8-450
0005 Waterloo to Bournemouth 8-450

Also at the moment the 1935 Waterloo to Weymouth is a 9 car with 450 London end (Bournemouth portion).
 

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Saturday Waterloo to Southampton are all 5.444 or 10.444 except:

1639 Poole 8.450
1739 Poole 8.450

0105 Southampton Ctrl via East Putney 8.450 also runs on Saturday as well as weekdays.
 

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Thanks. Are there any going to London from Southampton on a saturday?

Only on some of the very early departures from Southampton that are off pattern (e.g. 0530) some ex Poole's at xx55 are 450s, but the following xx00 will always be a 5 or 10.444 and overtakes the semi-fast at Eastleigh. You wouldn't take the xx55 unless you needed to.
 
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Only on some of the very early departures from Southampton that are off pattern (e.g. 0530) some ex Poole's at xx55 are 450s, but the following xx00 will always be a 5 or 10.444 and overtakes the semi-fast at Eastleigh. You wouldn't take the xx55 unless you needed to.

Thanks for all your help. Going to visit my sister at uni in a 444 will be a whole lot more comfortable than a 450 or god forbid a Voyager:lol:
 

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Thanks for all your help. Going to visit my sister at uni in a 444 will be a whole lot more comfortable than a 450 or god forbid a Voyager:lol:

Funny you should say that, I preferred a voyager over a 444, mainly because on the 444s ive started to notice there's quite a lot of rough track at the moment (shawford Jnc for example) but the voyagers don't seem affected by the rough track.
 

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Funny you should say that, I preferred a voyager over a 444, mainly because on the 444s ive started to notice there's quite a lot of rough track at the moment (shawford Jnc for example) but the voyagers don't seem affected by the rough track.

It might be partly down to the relative weights, Voyagers are naturally heavier coaches as you've got engines, fuel tanks, gear boxes etc underneath each coach
 

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And, to be fair, Voyagers are also designed for higher speeds, so might have better suspension.
 

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Funny you should say that, I preferred a voyager over a 444, mainly because on the 444s ive started to notice there's quite a lot of rough track at the moment (shawford Jnc for example) but the voyagers don't seem affected by the rough track.

When u say shawford jnc, you probably mean the entire Waterloo to Weymouth route. I'm sure there's more rough track than smooth these days.
 

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Southampton 450s from Waterloo Mon-Fri

0612 Waterloo to Branksome 4-450
0840 Waterloo to Poole 12-450 (8 from Southampton to Poole)
1339 Waterloo to Poole 4-450
1439 Waterloo to Brockenhurst 4-450
1748 Waterloo to Southampton Central 8-450
1839 Waterloo to Poole/Fareham 8-450 splits Basingstoke
2105 Waterloo to Poole 8-450
0005 Waterloo to Bournemouth 8-450

Also at the moment the 1935 Waterloo to Weymouth is a 9 car with 450 London end (Bournemouth portion).

Noticed there have been some changes to these lately (this year?) - for example the 1439 Brockenhurst was a 444 and the 1539 Brockenhurst a 450 for many years.

Not sure if it's still the case but the 2039 out of Waterloo (which turns back and forms the 2230) also used to be 450 circa 2013.
 

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When u say shawford jnc, you probably mean the entire Waterloo to Weymouth route. I'm sure there's more rough track than smooth these days.

Indeed the whole route is poor at the moment, but Shawford Jnc is particularly bad.
 
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