Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway

[444045]

Another 701 heading south 6X24 0735 Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Works 119 late passing Kettering, Locos 66739/745.
If anyone knows which 701 it is - would be gratefully received, thank you.

 

[spark001uk]

Another 701 heading south 6X24 0735 Derby Litchurch Lane to Eastleigh Works 119 late passing Kettering, Locos 66739/745.
If anyone knows which 701 it is - would be gratefully received, thank you.

That would be 701015.

 

[444045]

That would be 701015.

Thanks @spark001uk for your help and swift reply.

 

[spark001uk]

In other news, 701011 working 5Q40 decided it wanted a brief rest and sat down just shy of Addlestone LC earlier.
When I arrived the front markers went from whites, to reds, to one of each (shunt marker), and the front 5 BILs were lit.
2nd pic was everything powered down during a reboot. Not terminal by any means, it was only there about 10 mins. There goes its ffm accumulation though I imagine!

 

[387star]

These are to be operated with fully trained Guards but Driver's do the doors ?

 

[WWTownEnth]

Anyone found any videos of 701015 on its delivery run?

 

[spark001uk]

Anyone found any videos of 701015 on its delivery run?

Yes, here's mine!
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[Mollman]

These are to be operated with fully trained Guards but Driver's do the doors ?

If you go back a page or two there is a long conversation about the doors

 

[pompeyfan]

These are to be operated with fully trained Guards but Driver's do the doors ?

Exactly that. Same as how GA are operating their new trains. Personally I’m not a fan.

 

[Goldfish62]

Exactly that. Same as how GA are operating their new trains. Personally I’m not a fan.

The services which the 720s are/will be on are predominantly DOO without guards, as they have been for a few decades, so not quite the same.

 

[pompeyfan]

The services which the 720s are/will be on are predominantly DOO without guards, as they have been for a few decades, so not quite the same.

ah, but the Stadlers, which admittedly aren’t that new anymore tend to run on services that were solely guard operated

 

[Goldfish62]

ah, but the Stadlers, which admittedly aren’t that new anymore tend to run on services that were solely guard operated

I was referring to the 720s, which I think the OP was as well.

 

[pompeyfan]

I was referring to the 720s, which I think the OP was as well.

the OP was myself

 

[Goldfish62]

the OP was myself

Oops!

 

[spark001uk]

Latest unit out to play today, 701012 working the 5Q39/40/41/42 diagram.

 

[PG]

2nd pic was everything powered down during a reboot

So for however long a reboot takes a unit can be in total darkness? i.e. no marker lights

 

[spark001uk]

So for however long a reboot takes a unit can be in total darkness? i.e. no marker lights

I was in a 700 once that had to reboot at a station. All lights went off, aircon off, doors locked. Computers are the future don't you know! :/

 

[pompeyfan]

A reboot will do that but it should still leave one tail light on each end as far as I’m aware.

 

[Dstock7080]

So for however long a reboot takes a unit can be in total darkness? i.e. no marker lights

On S Stock everything will go off including marker lights, until “set” button pushed then one tail light will come on until train fully reboots

 

[Goldfish62]

I was in a 700 once that had to reboot at a station. All lights went off, aircon off, doors locked. Computers are the future don't you know! :/

I remember being locked in 458s in total darkness during their early years. And their software is the equivalent of the Sinclair ZX81.

 

[spark001uk]

I notice since 14/12 there's a lot of low numbered 5Q paths in the system - 5Q01-07, 5Q11-18, etc.
Intended for crew training perhaps? (delayed now, obviously).

 

[Juniper Driver]

I remember being locked in 458s in total darkness during their early years. And their software is the equivalent of the Sinclair ZX81.

Not sure that was the computers fault that time probably another fault.
I think the software is good. It does give a lot of useful information… The only problem is when putting P.I.S codes in it takes about two minutes before it activates.

 

[spark001uk]

Not sure that was the computers fault that time probably another fault.
I think the software is good. It does give a lot of useful information… The only problem is when putting P.I.S codes in it takes about two minutes before it activates.

That and its tendancy to slip out of sync a station or two during the journey.

 

[Juniper Driver]

That and its tendancy to slip out of sync a station or two during the journey.

All the bloody time (lol) the reason for that I think is that the computer is so slow though not fully sure... Seems to happen at short distances between stations (St Margs - Twickenham)...round Hounslow and down the Reading Road.I'm not sure if its making extra announcements as well and considering the computer is 20+ years old it's probably not surprising.

Noticed 701005 in Top Shed Wimbledon Yard yesterday. It was there last week also…

 

[Goldfish62]

All the bloody time (lol) the reason for that I think is that the computer is so slow though not fully sure... Seems to happen at short distances between stations (St Margs - Twickenham)...round Hounslow and down the Reading Road.I'm not sure if its making extra announcements as well and considering the computer is 20+ years old it's probably not surprising.

Noticed 701005 in Top Shed Wimbledon Yard yesterday. It was there last week also…

Always happens between Winnersh and Winnersh Triangle. It doesn't cycle through in time so announces Earley as Winnersh Triangle and Reading as Earley unless the driver advances it, which most don't do.

 

[Meglos]

I was searching for Class 701 vehicle number allocations for the individual carriages and came across the attached letter from the ORR dated 1st October 2020, which gives the TOPS and UIC vehicle numbers.

The letter can also be found at https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2020-10/class-701-authorisation-letter-2020-09-22.pdf

Based on this can anyone complete the following :
DM(DV) - Driving?
PM(DV1) -
TLW(DV) - Toilet?
M3(DV1) -
EM1(DV) -
EM2(DV) -

Also I assume on the Class 701/0 the toilets are in the 3rd and 8th vehicle, and for the Class 701/5 the toilets are in the 3rd vehicle?

 

[Domh245]

DV refers to dual voltage, units 001 and 501/2, otherwise it's fairly standard nomenclature:

DM: driving motor
PM: pantograph motor
TLW: Trailer lavatory wheelchair
M3: Motor 3(rd in half-set)

E I don't know however, however it would presumably relate to it being the split point on the 10 car sets. M is motor as usual and 1 2 refer to position in formation

 

[swt_passenger]

DV refers to dual voltage, units 001 and 501/2, otherwise it's fairly standard nomenclature:

DM: driving motor
PM: pantograph motor
TLW: Trailer lavatory wheelchair
M3: Motor 3(rd in half-set)

E I don't know however, however it would presumably relate to it being the split point on the 10 car sets. M is motor as usual and 1 2 refer to position in formation

Could just be E for end (of the 5), maybe?

 

[Meglos]

DV refers to dual voltage, units 001 and 501/2, otherwise it's fairly standard nomenclature:

DM: driving motor
PM: pantograph motor
TLW: Trailer lavatory wheelchair
M3: Motor 3(rd in half-set)

E I don't know however, however it would presumably relate to it being the split point on the 10 car sets. M is motor as usual and 1 2 refer to position in formation

Thanks for the response. I'd completely forgotten the standard nomenclature DOH! I should have noticed the DV and DC differences.

 

[Juniper Driver]

Always happens between Winnersh and Winnersh Triangle. It doesn't cycle through in time so announces Earley as Winnersh Triangle and Reading as Earley unless the driver advances it, which most don't do.

I do, but it's a bit of a waste of time and a distraction because by the time it's sorted it's after Earley as the computer is so slow...