Cleethorpes-Fort William & return (inc ECS times) charter

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For anyone who's interested, there is a Cleethorpes-Fort William charter this weekend. The charter ECS runs this Thursday from Carnforth to Cleethorpes and the ECS returns from Cleethorpes to Carnforth on Sunday morning, the charter runs up to Fort William on Friday and back south on Saturday
Traction is top n tail WCRC 47s with Statesman Rail Pullman umber & cream coaches. Times as follows

5Z56 Carnforth Steamtown-Cleethorpes (arrive 1719, platform 1)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U51856/2013/03/07/advanced

1Z57 0633 Cleethorpes-Fort William (via Brigg, Doncaster and Settle)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U51880/2013/03/08/advanced

1Z58 0847 Fort William-Cleethorpes (arrive 2237)
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54484/2013/03/09/advanced

5Z60 1136 Cleethorpes-Carnforth Steamtown
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U51863/2013/03/10/advanced

The train is unable to stable at Barnetby overnight due to the run rounds of freights being undertaken, because of the landslide at Hatfield (which is why the train stops at Brigg and Doncaster)
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47826* and 47854 "Diamond Jubilee" allocated.
* this has lost its Scarbrough Spa Express branding (since it last came to Cleethorpes )
 
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The consist as it arrived into Cleethorpes so if you've seen it working the charter today it will be in the opposite order (i.e. 47760 leading, then 5991... etc)

47854 "Diamond Jubilee"

CAR NO 17080
3231 "BEN CRUACHAN"
3312 "HELVELLYN"
KITCHEN CAR 1659
553 "CRUMMOCK WATER"
549 "BASSENTHWAITE"
CAR NO 1211
550 "RYDAL WATER"
3352
CAR NO 5991

47760
 

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Why, on Realtimetrains, are there two sets of timings, WTT and realtime? WTT (which I assume is working timetable) leaves Carlisle at 1640 whereas "realtime" is 1612. Should I expect it to leave Carlisle at 1612? (Will help if I'm stood in a field somewhere!)
 

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Why, on Realtimetrains, are there two sets of timings, WTT and realtime? WTT (which I assume is working timetable) leaves Carlisle at 1640 whereas "realtime" is 1612. Should I expect it to leave Carlisle at 1612? (Will help if I'm stood in a field somewhere!)
Correct about the meaning but realtime will be update as the train progresses so I would check the train nearer the time but it may leave at the predicted realtime depending on how early/late it is...
 

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Why, on Realtimetrains, are there two sets of timings, WTT and realtime? WTT (which I assume is working timetable) leaves Carlisle at 1640 whereas "realtime" is 1612. Should I expect it to leave Carlisle at 1612? (Will help if I'm stood in a field somewhere!)
My feeling would be to ignore the real time data until morning. It is booked to leave Carlisle at 16:40. I suspect it won't be much earlier than this being a station call. There is a chance it could run a bit early though if it is a set down only job
 

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My feeling would be to ignore the real time data until morning. It is booked to leave Carlisle at 16:40. I suspect it won't be much earlier than this being a station call. There is a chance it could run a bit early though if it is a set down only job
Not a passenger stop, first set down is Appleby
 

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The consist as it arrived into Cleethorpes so if you've seen it working the charter today it will be in the opposite order (i.e. 47760 leading, then 5991... etc)

47854 "Diamond Jubilee"

CAR NO 17080
3231 "BEN CRUACHAN"
3312 "HELVELLYN"
KITCHEN CAR 1659
553 "CRUMMOCK WATER"
549 "BASSENTHWAITE"
CAR NO 1211
550 "RYDAL WATER"
3352
CAR NO 5991

47760
Nice stock!
 

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My feeling would be to ignore the real time data until morning. It is booked to leave Carlisle at 16:40. I suspect it won't be much earlier than this being a station call. There is a chance it could run a bit early though if it is a set down only job
Cheers. The realtime data has now changed so that it leaves Carlisle at 1636, about the same as WTT time. Has one hour in Carlisle.
 
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