Collision and derailment near Salisbury (Fisherton Tunnel) 31/10/21

[theking]

Should we limit comment and speculation and wait for official news?

Where is the speculation.

If they're both travelling in the same direction then what is posted is what's happened.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Someone has leaked the incident report.

My thoughts with those involved.

 

[DNCharingX]

Horrifying, especially in tunnel. Hoping that everyone is okay.

 

[gavin]

Politics For All has leaked the incident report on Twitter

 

[Darandio]

Interesting. Bidirectional?

Not sure.

 

[Ianno87]

Where is the speculation.

If they're both travelling in the same direction then what is posted is what's happened.

Perhaps @DarloRich was getting at "it is factual so far, let's keep it that way".

 

[Monty]

Posted this in the weather related thread, but this should make it clearer.

 

[Nova1]

Services halted after two trains crash near Salisbury - BBC News

A number of passengers have been injured in a crash between two trains near Salisbury.
The collision happened near London Road with police, the fire service, paramedics and British Transport Police at the scene.
About 12 people are thought to have been injured and one of the drivers is believed to be trapped in their cab.
Other train services in the area have been halted. No further details were immediately available.
BBC reporter James Ingham said none of the passengers were believed to have been seriously injured.

Both South Western Railway and Great Western Trains said their services had been stopped.

 

[GB]

All passengers evacuated (some with cuts and bruises) and both drivers have now been rescued.

 

[Spartacus]

Driver out, on foot, but seems likely to be a hospital job.

 

[AndyPJG]

All passengers evacuated (some with cuts and bruises) and both drivers have now been rescued.

Great News, thank you

 

[Grumpy Git]

Good news.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

No one is believed to be seriously injured then?

 

[KM1991]

No fatalities according to sources. Dozen or so injured.

 

[RPI]

Thank goodness for that.

 

[_toommm_]

GWR struck an object and derailed, which knocked out the signalling. SWR subsequently hit the GWR. This is from the NR Press Release apparently:

https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1454909476948033536?s=21

Salisbury collision: GWR 1708 Portsmouth-Bristol struck object, derailed as it approached Salisbury. Derailment knocked out signalling. SWR 1720 London-Honiton hit Bristol train. Reports of injuries. This from NR press statement.

 

[Ianno87]

No fatalities according to sources. Dozen or so injured.

You mean dozen or so injured?

Edit: Corrected yourself before I responded!

 

[Neo9320]

No fatalities according to sources. Dozen or so injured.

Injuries perhaps?

 

[DanNCL]

Excellent to hear that everyone has been rescued. Can't have been easy to get everyone out of an overturned train in a tunnel, especially one of BR heritage that won't be up to modern crashworthiness standards.

 

[LOL The Irony]

All passengers evacuated (some with cuts and bruises) and both drivers have now been rescued.

Driver out, on foot, but seems likely to be a hospital job.

That's good to hear

 

[Nova1]

https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1454909667105247232?s=20

 

[RPI]

Excellent to hear that everyone has been rescued. Can't have been easy to get everyone out of an overturned train in a tunnel, especially one of BR heritage that won't be up to modern crashworthiness standards.

158's have proved to be very crashworthy over the years

 

[richw]

158's have proved to be very crashworthy over the years

Will the GWR be a 165?

 

[Peregrine 4903]

Thank goodness everyone everyone has been rescued it seems.

 

[r1_biker]

Will the GWR be a 165?

it was a 158 , 4 cars

 

[43096]

Not sure.

Doesn't appear to be bi-di based on this extract from the Sectional Appendix.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

GWR struck an object and derailed, which knocked out the signalling. SWR subsequently hit the GWR. This is from the NR Press Release apparently:

https://twitter.com/philatrail/status/1454909476948033536?s=21

RAIB report will be interesting on this one if this had caused signalling irregularity such that a following train has received a proceed aspect allowing an initial accident to be worsened. Delighted to here the injuries are minor as this is most important fact currently.

 

[FrodshamJnct]

RAIB report will be interesting on this one when a following train has received a proceed aspect allowing an initial accident to be worsened. Delighted to here the injuries are minor as this is most important fact currently.

Saw on Twitter someone report that the GWR derailing knocked out the signalling. Apologies if that’s inappropriate speculation and please delete if so.

 

[DNCharingX]

That's good to hear that people are safe. Tunnel incidents are one of my fears and this could have ended much worse.

Inevitably questions will be asked, and I'm interested in the answers.

 

[Iskra]

RAIB report will be interesting on this one when a following train has received a proceed aspect allowing an initial accident to be worsened. Delighted to here the injuries are minor as this is most important fact currently.

Do we know this to be true?

The reports say the signalling was knocked out. We don't know how that happened. It's quite possible that the signal protecting the tunnel was no longer operating correctly. The cabling could easily have been damaged during the train derailment.

I'm also glad that everyone seems to be (relatively) unscathed.