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skyhigh

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It's Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd, which went into administration in August 2019. Not Eversholt Rail Ltd (who fully owned Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd).
 

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Eversholt Rail Ltd is already in liquidation. This is an application by the joint liquidators with the respondents being an international law firm specialising in company law. Without seeing the case papers my guess is that the parties are asking the court to determine legal fees so that any other creditors cannot dispute any agreement between the liquidators and the lawyers.
 

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Eversholt Rail Ltd is already in liquidation.
Is it, or is it just the separate Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd? I can't see any references to Eversholt Rail Ltd being in liquidation?

Technically two different companies, just with similar names.
 

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Eversholt Rail Ltd is already in liquidation. This is an application by the joint liquidators with the respondents being an international law firm specialising in company law. Without seeing the case papers my guess is that the parties are asking the court to determine legal fees so that any other creditors cannot dispute any agreement between the liquidators and the lawyers.
I'm not sure how you get to that view, based on the Companies House filings: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06953114/filing-history
 

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The court case definitely states Eversholt Rail Limited so it is the company with that name that is in liquidation. The fact that there is a company with the name Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd to me indicates what is known as a 'pre-pack'. This is where a company goes into administration and there is already another company probably with a similar name ready to take over the business but not the liabilities. I, personally, have never done a pre-pack and I have doubts about the morality of some of them.
 

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The court case definitely states Eversholt Rail Limited so it is the company with that name that is in liquidation. The fact that there is a company with the name Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd to me indicates what is known as a 'pre-pack'. This is where a company goes into administration and there is already another company probably with a similar name ready to take over the business but not the liabilities. I, personally, have never done a pre-pack and I have doubts about the morality of some of them.
I rather suspect this is much ado about nothing. If Eversholt was at risk I rather think it would be making headlines.
 

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The court case definitely states Eversholt Rail Limited so it is the company with that name that is in liquidation. The fact that there is a company with the name Eversholt Rail (365) Ltd to me indicates what is known as a 'pre-pack'. This is where a company goes into administration and there is already another company probably with a similar name ready to take over the business but not the liabilities. I, personally, have never done a pre-pack and I have doubts about the morality of some of them.
Eversholt rail (365) Ltd went into liquidation some time ago (August 2019). Given the nature of Eversholt Rail Limiteds business as being that of providing "asset management and administrative services to other companies in the group", this looks to be more related to a restructuring of the group than anything else to me.

It should also be noted that Eversholt Rail Leasing Ltd is listed as a person with significant control for Eversholt Rail Ltd and hence probably the parent company ( possibly of several others)
 

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It has been reported that Carpetright is close to collapse: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkgl3zz1v6o
Carpetright is on the brink of collapse, putting more than 1,800 jobs at risk.
The retailer has filed a notice of intention to appoint administrators while it tries to secure extra funding.
Advisory firm PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) has been lined up, but not yet appointed, to handle the administration of the company.
The company said it had "begun promising conversations with interested parties" and that its 272 stores would remain open for now.
Kevin Barrett, boss of Nestware Holdings, which owns Carpetright and several other retailers, said its restructuring plans were hit by a slump in April trade caused by a cyber-attack.
"This has resulted in the company seeking a period of protection whilst sale negotiations proceed."
He added that its main priority was ensuring that "as few customers and colleagues are impacted as possible".
The firm, one of the UK’s biggest flooring retailers, has also been hit by slowing customer demand.
Retailers trying to sell big-ticket items have faced a particularly tough time as consumers focus on everyday essentials.
The company has been given 10 days' breathing space to try to find a buyer.
It is no stranger to difficult times, having gone through a form of insolvency proceedings six years ago to cut costs.
At the time, it was forced to close 81 of its stores after reporting a full-year loss of over £70m.
News of its impending collapse on Friday comes a day after it was reported the company had put itself up for sale.
Carpetright was founded in 1988, with its first store opening in Canning Town, in east London. It enjoyed years of success, listing on the London Stock Exchange in June 1993. It was delisted in 2020.
Today it sells not only flooring, but mattresses, curtains and blinds, garden furniture and artificial grass.
 

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t has been reported that Carpetright is close to collapse: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkgl3zz1v6o
Packed to the rafters with private equity debt. Check.
Pre-pack administration planned. Check.
Taxpayer to foot the bill for all the redundancy payments and unpaid taxes. Check.
Same owners to walk back in with a debt-free business? Check.

They really need to clamp down on these types of pre-pack administrations.
 

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Packed to the rafters with private equity debt. Check.
Pre-pack administration planned. Check.
Taxpayer to foot the bill for all the redundancy payments and unpaid taxes. Check.
Same owners to walk back in with a debt-free business? Check.

They really need to clamp down on these types of pre-pack administrations.
If only we had a brand new government that might do just that. :smile:
 

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Where do people buy carpets from these days that presumably has eaten into their market share?
 

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Where do people buy carpets from these days that presumably has eaten into their market share?
There are lots of independent shops out there, and in my experience tend to be much better as rather than the lead time of several weeks that you get with Carpetright or Tapi Carpets, can usually offer delivery and fitting within a few days.

You also have to account for changing trends with hard flooring products tending to be gaining in popularity, plus the decrease in home ownership which means that more and more people will not be responsible for / allowed to install carpets in their homes.
 

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Where do people buy carpets from these days that presumably has eaten into their market share?

Tapi is quite big now but not sure of others apart from smaller independents. I tend to use the latter but have also found CarpetRight to be very good.
 

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Where do people buy carpets from these days that presumably has eaten into their market share?
Carpetright has, I believe, been the UK's leading retailer of carpets by market share by some way in recent years. Followed by Tapi and then the likes of John Lewis, IKEA, B&Q and DFS. Carpetright's business has apparently been adversely impacted by competition from Tapi and a general move from carpets to hard flooring.
 

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It has been reported that Carpetright is close to collapse: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckkgl3zz1v6o
My local Carpetright is already being turned into self-storage units, of all the things to put in a town centre!

Carpetright's business has apparently been adversely impacted by competition from Tapi and a general move from carpets to hard flooring.
I think carpets are overrated. I quite like the idea of living in a house with wood veneer flooring throughout, with a few rugs here and there that can easily be chucked into a washing machine.
When we try to clean the ancient carpet in the living room of my house, it will stink for more than a week. Lately my mum bought a carpet cleaner. Several runs later and the liquid was still coming out of the carpet with the complexion of coffee.
 

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When we try to clean the ancient carpet in the living room of my house, it will stink for more than a week. Lately my mum bought a carpet cleaner. Several runs later and the liquid was still coming out of the carpet with the complexion of coffee.
A bit of invisible dirt doesn’t do you any harm!

When buying carpets, I do find it really useful to ring round several firms, especially small local ones. They may have just what you want and a free slot to fit it quickly.
 

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There are lots of independent shops out there, and in my experience tend to be much better as rather than the lead time of several weeks that you get with Carpetright or Tapi Carpets, can usually offer delivery and fitting within a few days.
And this of course will doubtless perpetuate the issues for Carpetright; who in their right mind is going to walk into one of their branches tomorrow and drop hundreds of pounds on carpets that won’t be delivered for days or weeks, hoping and praying that they don’t sink without trace in the meantime?!
 

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And this of course will doubtless perpetuate the issues for Carpetright; who in their right mind is going to walk into one of their branches tomorrow and drop hundreds of pounds on carpets that won’t be delivered for days or weeks, hoping and praying that they don’t sink without trace in the meantime?!

Believe me, plenty will!
 

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And always by credit card for section 75 protection hopefully, but many probably won’t even do that!
Unless you're one of the unfortunate people who can't get a credit card, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't at least put the first £100 on a credit card. With all the business failures in recent years you'd think people would have learned by now.

I do feel sorry for people in that situation though, look at the people who've lost thousands with SK:IN going into administration.

What I'd like to see is stronger action against companies that carry on trading when they know they're on skid row. They shouldn't be trading if they know they're insolvent, but so many do and there's never any consequences.
 

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What I'd like to see is stronger action against companies that carry on trading when they know they're on skid row. They shouldn't be trading if they know they're insolvent, but so many do and there's never any consequences.
It’s the same mentality as gambling addiction, just one more roll of the dice and we’ll win big… but never actually do
 

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Events like today can actually see a longer term boom for the company.

1) This software is likely well embedded within businesses and has been relatively hassle free for some time, doing it's job perfectly. Going through procurement and then rolling out a new solution is expensive and challenging.

2) The lightning doesn't strike twice approach - Crowdstrike will do absolutely everything to avoid this situation again, and I'd imagine they'll be absolutely bomb proof going forward.

3) Heavy discounting/compensation - they'll get a lot of new business and retain existing by offering generous compensation/incentives to recover their business.
 

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