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Companies you don't like to buy from, and why

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I'm no great fan of MacOS, it's old-fashioned and clunky to use. But iOS/iPadOS are decent and so is the hardware.
I find the opposite. I like using MacOS but whenever I use an iOS device it never fails to either frustrate or bewilder me... in contrast I am quite proficient in navigating my Android phone and usually find it easy to do want I want.
 
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He loves Britain so much he lives in Monte Carlo

And runs Nice football club, such a nice guy isn't he, massive brexiteer, won't stick his hand in his pocket to help out the British that he is so fond of, but will happily help the people that he wants rid of, hypocrite of the highest order.
 

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I'm no great fan of MacOS, it's old-fashioned and clunky to use. But iOS/iPadOS are decent and so is the hardware. The fundamental issue with Apple kit is that all of it is priced about a third higher than it should be. Maybe we need an AppleCard to knock that back off? :D

MacOS all the way for work and personal use here other than a Win10 work VM and a gaming PC. Windows still annoys me and I can't be anywhere near as productive on it.

As for Apple as a hardware company, yes, they are problematic. The Right to Repair movement needs to succeed and I've been following Louis Rossmann's endeavors in that area for some time. Their treatment of independent repair specialists is appalling.. even their recent 'improvements' seem somewhat cynical. A $2 trillion company can afford to do a lot better.
 

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MacOS all the way for work and personal use here other than a Win10 work VM and a gaming PC. Windows still annoys me and I can't be anywhere near as productive on it.

As for Apple as a hardware company, yes, they are problematic. The Right to Repair movement needs to succeed and I've been following Louis Rossmann's endeavors in that area for some time. Their treatment of independent repair specialists is appalling.. even their recent 'improvements' seem somewhat cynical. A $2 trillion company can afford to do a lot better.
But maybe they think that if they do try better, they will no longer be a $2 trillion company...
 

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Sports Direct. Because of Ashley
Yes, anything owned by Ashley is on my Avoid list.

Yes, my football club is still in business and probably won';t be too badly affected by the current ongoing worldwide situation, but we exist just to survive in the Premier League, we're not in it to win things, like what sporting teams are intended to do, we're a glorified billboard for his sh*te business

And you couldn't pay me to bank with Santander after how they screwed me over too when they took over Alliance and Leicester (I also can't stand Ant and Dec, so their latest adverts just confirm that I will never ever use them).

Santander saved my 'bank' account when Bradford & Bingley went t*ts up, so I'm a bit ambivalent to them, but as for Ant & Dec, I can't stand the big foreheeded tw*ts, which isn't in the Geordie psyche (to dislike them) really
 

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Yes, my football club is still in business and probably won';t be too badly affected by the current ongoing worldwide situation, but we exist just to survive in the Premier League, we're not in it to win things, like what sporting teams are intended to do, we're a glorified billboard for his sh*te business

Add House of Fraser(who seem to be going down the pan anyway), Flannels(loads of independents far better - Mainline Menswear for one) to that list.

Try to avoid Greene King and their pubs/beer.
 

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Any particular reason why, or do you just not like what they produce?

They bought out Hardys and Hansons(a Nottinghamshire brewery who’s beer I liked) and raised rents and charges to the point many landlords either went bankrupt or out of business.
 

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Amazon - I don't like the owner.
Dyson - Decent enough products in my view, but I don't like the owner, so I'll be buying from Gtech when I need a new hoover.
Europcar - They refused to refund the deposit on a courtesy car my Dad used once, with the car returned undamaged and with a full tank of fuel.
House of Fraser - I don't like the owner.
HP - I bought a brand new laptop which completely died after just over a year of light use, so I'll be sticking with Lenovo in future.
Sports Direct - I don't like the owner.
Tesco - I find Tesco to be poor value for money.
Wetherspoons - I won't repeat what other members have already stated.
Yodel - They delivered a PS4 game to me with a damaged case, then the courier snatched the device and stylus from my hand before I'd finished signing.
 

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More votes for:

Ryanair
Wetherspoons (except to use their loos)

Also voting for:

BA
Aldi
Hertz


Oh and can I have Wetherspoons again?
 

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More votes for:

Ryanair
Wetherspoons (except to use their loos)

Also voting for:

BA
Aldi
Hertz


Oh and can I have Wetherspoons again?
I can understand the others, but why Aldi? They've always seemed like a rather non-offensive retailer of food products to me; indeed they seem to care more about the supply chain than some of the proper supermarkets!
 

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I can understand the others, but why Aldi? They've always seemed like a rather non-offensive retailer of food products to me; indeed they seem to care more about the supply chain than some of the proper supermarkets!

Disclaimer: I genuinely don’t know where there is a branch near me, so I have no need to go. However on the occasions I have gone in other parts of the country, I’ve found it congested, long queues, and frankly full of tat. Clearly there is some cheap stuff, but then there is in the ‘main stream’ supermarkets too. When I compare prices for the products I buy, there’s very little in it. And when I’ve tried the cheap stuff, It’s generally awful. So, I really just don’t “get it”, and won’t go there.

I also had a friend from uni who went through their management training scheme, and there were some very sharp practices, certainly compared to those I have inside knowledge of (Sainsbury’s, Asda). That was some time ago, but I do hold a grudge!
 

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Disclaimer: I genuinely don’t know where there is a branch near me, so I have no need to go. However on the occasions I have gone in other parts of the country, I’ve found it congested, long queues, and frankly full of tat. Clearly there is some cheap stuff, but then there is in the ‘main stream’ supermarkets too. When I compare prices for the products I buy, there’s very little in it. And when I’ve tried the cheap stuff, It’s generally awful. So, I really just don’t “get it”, and won’t go there.

I'm an Aldi convert - from Waitrose which is saying something. When I'm doing a week's shop for four people I actually find it impossible to spend over fifty quid at the local store. It's become a running joke. Go in an afternoon or evening and it's very easy to get what you need in a hurry without a ton of queues. It also helps to avoid the odds and sods / jumble sale aisle - that bit is pretty grotty, no doubt there.
 

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I'm an Aldi convert - from Waitrose which is saying something. When I'm doing a week's shop for four people I actually find it impossible to spend over fifty quid at the local store. It's become a running joke. Go in an afternoon or evening and it's very easy to get what you need in a hurry without a ton of queues. It also helps to avoid the odds and sods / jumble sale aisle - that bit is pretty grotty, no doubt there.

I find Aldi to be:
1. Cheap
2. Good quality (mostly, and you learn the stuff to avoid)

It also has a great system whereby you put your stuff back in your trolley as it is scanned and then go and pack at your leisure.
 

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Morrisons.
They have a habit of misleading pricing. Fir example they'll put a shelf sticker in front of wrong product to mislead you for example
"colgate extreme white only 95p" will be infront of colgate white,which is £2.50
 

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Morrisons.
They have a habit of misleading pricing. Fir example they'll put a shelf sticker in front of wrong product to mislead you for example
"colgate extreme white only 95p" will be infront of colgate white,which is £2.50
Not only Morrison's do that. My policy is to call for the till supervisor and then wander over to the relevant shelf location to prove the issue. Invariably then get the product at the lower price! ;)
 

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Morrisons.
They have a habit of misleading pricing. Fir example they'll put a shelf sticker in front of wrong product to mislead you for example
"colgate extreme white only 95p" will be infront of colgate white,which is £2.50
Colgate is another one I avoid. Their products are overpriced and they're owned by a huge conglomerate so there's no real reason to buy from them...

Not only Morrison's do that. My policy is to call for the till supervisor and then wander over to the relevant shelf location to prove the issue. Invariably then get the product at the lower price! ;)
Yes, Tesco do it as well...
 

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Colgate is another one I avoid. Their products are overpriced and they're owned by a huge conglomerate so there's no real reason to buy from them...

I’ve been using Colgate for 30 years, and have always found that their stuff is very cheap when it’s on offer.
 

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Yodel - They delivered a PS4 game to me with a damaged case, then the courier snatched the device and stylus from my hand before I'd finished signing.

Yodel had one of the worst customer experience reputations in recent years, I do wonder if they've improved but maybe not. Presumably you boycott a raft of companies who use Yodel for deliveries?
 

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they're owned by a huge conglomerate

That is the case for the vast majority of brands you see mind you, even if you don't realise it!
In terms of toothpastes, Aquafresh and Sensodyne are owned by GSK, Oral-B is owned by P&G, Signal is owned by Unilever.
 

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Yodel had one of the worst customer experience reputations in recent years, I do wonder if they've improved but maybe not. Presumably you boycott a raft of companies who use Yodel for deliveries?

It's increasingly possible to pay extra for DPD (very much the best of a bad bunch), and where offered I do.
 

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Clearly there is some cheap stuff, but then there is in the ‘main stream’ supermarkets too. When I compare prices for the products I buy, there’s very little in it. And when I’ve tried the cheap stuff, It’s generally awful. So, I really just don’t “get it”, and won’t go there.

My experience is that Aldi is generally cheap and good quality, but that it isn't as good or as cheap as it was. But if you compare the quality in Aldi to, say, the quality of Tesco's "brands", Aldi generally wins. There is some duff stuff- Aldi washing powder and dishwasher tablets are rubbish, and proper brands are as cheap in Home Bargains- but in general it's better than what you get at Tesco for the same price.

Aldi nappies, by the way, are absolutely fantastic and much better than branded nappies like Huggies which are three times the price.

As for staffing, they pay well but they make you work for it.
 

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It's increasingly possible to pay extra for DPD (very much the best of a bad bunch), and where offered I do.

I rarely see Yodel deliver anything anymore unless it's from Naked Wines, and I've not bought anything from them in months. DPD seems to be far more common to see on local streets.
 

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I should have had Yodel on my list. Can’t believe I forgot them. I’ve seen them from both sides - as a customer where stuff goes missing, arrives damaged, gets left in the rain / thrown over a garden fence etc etc, and as someone managing a contract with them. Their account management is as bad as their customer service. Constant excuses and promises that KPIs will improve. They didn’t, and eventually I persuaded the people I worked for to dump them even if the successor (DPD) was more expensive
 

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Virgin internet because they do that thing of putting your bill up all the time until you complain about it, which means a lot of older customers or people lacking confidence get shafted. A horrible business model (and not the only company doing this). That and Branson trying to devour the NHS.

Not keen on Tesco historically because they used to abuse the planning system horribly, building on playing fields against local wishes etc (and appealing to central Government to overrule local planners)

Currys/Carphone Warehouse/Warburtons bread for donating to the Tories amongst other crimes. A shame most of their current donors are shady hedge funds that are unboycottable unless you’re some high net ‘worth‘ type.

Three for being awful if you want to leave their network (had no reception at work so reasonable), so hard to leave at the end of a contract, really condescending, passing you around departments to people who’d claim ‘we have solutions for you’. No you don’t, just let me sign off and leave it rather than waste my time, they said the same the previous year and nothing changed. Then a runabout to get a PAC off them.

Also never do McDonalds, but that’s a decades old boycott for rainforest stuff etc.

I use Apple stuff because I had an HTC android phone via a contract about a decade ago and it would barely work at all. At least with Apple you know there is a kind of minimum standard so things will work (although my first iPad didn’t really have enough memory to run properly after a few iOS upgrades). Plus I generally buy second hand or get hand-me-downs so price isn’t really an issue.
 

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They bought out Hardys and Hansons(a Nottinghamshire brewery who’s beer I liked) and raised rents and charges to the point many landlords either went bankrupt or out of business.
I remember the same thing happening about 30 years ago when another good Nottingham brewery was brought out by Scottish & Newcastle and the pubs were expected to sell stuff like McEwan's lager as well.
Anyone remember "Home Ales"?
All the villages around where I was brought up had a Home Ales pub and some two; I was weaned in it.

Can't remember now what happened to Shipstones, the third Nottingham brewery at that time.
I do remember it as a beer of extremes. You could either happily drink it all night or struggle to finish your first pint. Often referred to as the "Shipstone's Straight Through".
 

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Yodel had one of the worst customer experience reputations in recent years, I do wonder if they've improved but maybe not. Presumably you boycott a raft of companies who use Yodel for deliveries?

Fortunately, I don't have to as it's only the company I buy my PlayStation 4 games from who use Yodel as one of the delivery options. The other choice they offer is Royal Mail, which is the option I've chosen for all of the subsequent games I've ordered.

Thankfully the other companies I buy from online use either Royal Mail or DPD.
 
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Yodel had one of the worst customer experience reputations in recent years, I do wonder if they've improved but maybe not. Presumably you boycott a raft of companies who use Yodel for deliveries?

The issue with this is that when you buy on-line, you have little idea of who is actually going to deliver your parcel. Many companies use several different carriers, so it may be impossible to avoid Yodel.
 

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I rarely see Yodel deliver anything anymore unless it's from Naked Wines, and I've not bought anything from them in months. DPD seems to be far more common to see on local streets.

Yodel do seem to be dying off, which is good as it's a dire company. If DPD are increasing operations the decent couriers can work for them instead, and the poor ones can, er, go do something they're good at instead.

The issue with this is that when you buy on-line, you have little idea of who is actually going to deliver your parcel. Many companies use several different carriers, so it may be impossible to avoid Yodel.

Increasingly they do tell you, though. Which is interesting, as I recall a discussion on here a while ago in which, as this Forum is wont to do, rubbished the possibility of doing that because it was somehow impractical. (It can be added to the list of many, many things that were alleged to be totally impossible but then happened - the biggest railway related one being e-tickets, which I proposed on here a number of years ago, it was totally rubbished, then, er, happened pretty much exactly as I proposed).

If they don't tell you you can pretty much bet it's one they are embarrassed about (i.e. Yodel or Hermes) so can direct your business accordingly.
 
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