gazthomas
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That's a fair point! I was thinking of other lines, all arguably separateI don't think Waterloo as the Jubilee line ticket hall is street level with Waterloo Road.
That's a fair point! I was thinking of other lines, all arguably separateI don't think Waterloo as the Jubilee line ticket hall is street level with Waterloo Road.
Peter Boizot, the founder of Pizza Express, died recently. An obituary I read said that when he sold the group he kept Pizza on the Park and one other, I believe because he loved jazz and was involved with who got to play in the restaurant.It was never Pizza Express, it was an independent Restaraunt called “Pizza on the Park” but this restaurant closed down eight and a half years ago. It has been an ultra luxury hotel for the last six years though; the exit is not an emergency exit but secondary access to a staff only area.
Depends whether you count the old station building to the west, now a ventilation shaft, as part of the station. However HS2 will demolish that.Euston?
Depends whether you count the old station building to the west, now a ventilation shaft, as part of the station. However HS2 will demolish that.
Tube Stations that have no surface buildings
Central Line - Bank, Bethnal Green, Chancery Lane, Gants Hill, Marble Arch, Notting Hill Gate, St. Paul's, Tottenham Court Road
Bakerloo Line- Charing Cross, Piccadilly Circus, Regent's Park, South Kenton, Warwick Avenue
Piccadilly Line - Hyde Park Corner, Knightsbridge, Manor House, Piccadilly Circus, Turnpike Lane, Heathrow 4, Heathrow 5
Metropolitan Line - Barbican
Northern Line - Charing Cross, Bank, Old Street
Jubilee Line - Dollis Hill, Southwark, Swiss Cottage
Victoria Line- Pimlico, Vauxhall, Walthamstow Central
District Line - Aldgate East, Mansion House, Westminster
There are tube stations which have entrances that are inside part of a National Rail building, so the tube station itself has no surface building, but the National Rail station does. Euston station is like this, as it the Bakerloo part of Paddington and Marylebone. (Waterloo station has the often forgotten about 'Shell Centre' entrance and exit, which is not part of the main National Rail station. Charing Cross is part of a public subway, and not the National Rail station of the same name).
Stations ticket offices are not are surface level, but you have to descend down steps before you can get to the point where you can buy a ticket.
I don't think Waterloo as the Jubilee line ticket hall is street level with Waterloo Road.
That's a fair point! I was thinking of other lines, all arguably separate
As usual for stuff published by this individual, I have spotted a number of inaccuracies in this already!There's a list of stations with no surface buildings at http://www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/facts.html
You are right I forgot about the Shell ticket hall and after the works have finished although I can remember when there was lifts and the old entrance that was lost for the International terminal.The main Bakerloo/Northern line ticket hall is really at external street level as well, (although it’s access route disguises this well at the moment), it will become more obvious once the new accesses open via the former international terminal. But there is also a Bakerloo/Northern surface level ticket hall on the Shell Centre side of York Rd...
I don't look at his stuff anymore because of the errors.As usual for stuff published by this individual, I have spotted a number of inaccuracies in this already!
Does Bank now have a surface entrance which opened recently? I have not been and had a look yet.There's a list of stations with no surface buildings at http://www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/facts.html:
Yes it does, it’s on Walbrook, although the building isn’t owned by LU (it’s in the Bloomberg building), it does have LU facilities rooms and other facilities at street level which would, in my eyes, take it off that list.Does Bank now have a surface entrance which opened recently? I have not been and had a look yet.
I don't look at his stuff anymore because of the errors.
Thanks for that I will have a look after the holidays.Yes it does, it’s on Walbrook, although the building isn’t owned by LU (it’s in the Bloomberg building), it does have LU facilities rooms and other facilities at street level which would, in my eyes, take it off that list.
Only trouble is there are not a few errors perhaps as you are a fan you could tell him then more people might enjoy again. He may know more than some of the people on this sub-forum but remember he does not know everything.Personally I like Geoff Marshall. I think his stuff is interesting, amusing and very watchable. He's basically just a train geek doing what he loves and, presumably, getting paid for it. I'd forgive him the odd error. I'd wager he knows more about the Underground than many of the people posting on this sub-forum!
There's a list of stations with no surface buildings at http://www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/facts.html:
Only trouble is there are not a few errors perhaps as you are a fan you could tell him then more people might enjoy again. He may know more than some of the people on this sub-forum but remember he does not know everything.
Sorry I think it was the way you worded it about knowing more than people on here, came across wrong. A Merry Christmas to you and everyone.I don't think he claims to know everything. One of the joys of studying any subject is finding out something new for the first time. As a keen student of the historical geography and social history of railways, mainly those that are local or personal to me, I find the best thing about such an interest is learning something I didn't know before. If we knew everything it would make the pursuit of knowledge pointless, and also boring.
Anyway, Merry Christmas to everyone on here!
Nobody knows everything, least of all those who think they know everything. Cue C.L.R. James's quote on cricket, for those who are not familiar with it. I like his enthusiasm, but wouldn't describe myself as a fan, being too long in the tooth for such things.Only trouble is there are not a few errors perhaps as you are a fan you could tell him then more people might enjoy again. He may know more than some of the people on this sub-forum but remember he does not know everything.
Peter Boizot, the founder of Pizza Express, died recently. An obituary I read said that when he sold the group he kept Pizza on the Park and one other, I believe because he loved jazz and was involved with who got to play in the restaurant.
I’m on holiday, on my mobile phone, away from a computer which makes it difficult. I did actually have it in mind to check and provide a list when I get home.Mojo
Please point out the errors so us lessor mortals can be informed better
Thanks
There's a list of stations with no surface buildings at http://www.geofftech.co.uk/tube/facts.html:
I seem to think Clapham Common has no surface building as such, just a (rather elegant) structure to cover the staircase. I might be quite wrong however as it is a long time since I was there.
I seem to think Clapham Common has no surface building as such, just a (rather elegant) structure to cover the staircase. I might be quite wrong however as it is a long time since I was there.
The stair-covering roundhouse abuts a small pizza restaurant, not sure whether it'd be considered the same structure or not, but it may well be a TfL freehold / rental situation. Similar to the St Pauls entrance and its coffee shop shown in @Mutant Lemming's photo.
I think that Waterloo definitely is. I couldn't say about Bond Street, though.Waterloo and Bond Street?
I don't think Waterloo as the Jubilee line ticket hall is street level with Waterloo Road.
I think that Waterloo definitely is. I couldn't say about Bond Street, though.
However, if you wanted to be pedantic, Waterloo does have a station building ABOVE ground; it's on the station concourse of the National Rail station, but everything else is underground - no sub-surface lines or anything like that.