Continuing driver shortages on Great Northern

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by MikeWM, 28 Jul 2019.

  1. MikeWM

    MikeWM Member

    Messages:
    336
    Joined:
    26 Mar 2010
    Location:
    Ely
    It is almost five years since GTR took over Great Northern, and we’ve been told endlessly how they’ve embarked on massive efforts to recruit and train drivers - and yet, we’re still seeing driver shortages on an almost daily basis resulting in cancelled trains.

    For example, yesterday they were saying there would be shortages from 12 noon, and I see just now they are again saying there will be shortages tomorrow - yes, on a Monday! - after 12 noon...

    Are we just expected to put up with this for the rest of time? And while I see other TOCs have issues from time to time, why does GN have such a long-running problem that never seems to get properly fixed?
     
  2. Registered users do not see these banners - join or log in today!

    Rail Forums

     
  3. OwenB

    OwenB Member

    Messages:
    300
    Joined:
    8 Mar 2018
    Particularly annoying that the information page on the website calls it a "short term unavailability of train crew". That really makes my blood boil when it's been an issue for years.
     
  4. Knowledgeboy

    Knowledgeboy Member

    Messages:
    49
    Joined:
    31 Oct 2016
    They had a recruitment campaign back in March 2018. I applied for Hornsey. Passed everything but no positions and have been waiting patiently in a talent pool ever since. Last correspondence I had was told unlikely to be any openings in 2019 either. If you hear or know anything please do let me know!
     
  5. MikeWM

    MikeWM Member

    Messages:
    336
    Joined:
    26 Mar 2010
    Location:
    Ely
    Last Kings Cross to Kings Lynn cancelled again tonight.

    I know I keep on making this point, but I really shouldn't have to. As someone who used to rely on last trains - which was never a problem with FCC, whatever other issues they may have had - I continue to find the cavalier attitude GN seem to have to running last trains really rather alarming.
     
  6. bramling

    bramling Established Member

    Messages:
    6,561
    Joined:
    5 Mar 2012
    Location:
    Hertfordshire / Teesdale
    From casual observation of departure boards, the last Horsham to Peterborough ShamblesLink/ (9W90) also seems to get cancelled rather a lot. Obviously not good should someone be relying on it, although there are alternatives of sorts.
     
  7. Hadders

    Hadders Established Member

    Messages:
    6,353
    Joined:
    27 Apr 2011
    It really is quite a disgraceful situation. GTR have held the franchise for five years. They claim they were short of drivers when they took over and keep telling us they're operating the largest ever recruitment campaign in the history of the railway.

    But the shortages never seem to go away......
     
  8. Wilts Wanderer

    Wilts Wanderer Established Member

    Messages:
    1,043
    Joined:
    21 Nov 2016
    That sounds very much like funding being withheld.
     
  9. matt_world2004

    matt_world2004 Established Member

    Messages:
    2,189
    Joined:
    5 Nov 2014
    I wonder if gtr are deliberately running dowb the franchise in anticipation of a tfl takeover
     
  10. railfan100

    railfan100 Member

    Messages:
    11
    Joined:
    18 Aug 2019
    Location:
    London
    Can they not advertise for qualified's and get people onboard quite quickly? Not sure why this is still a problem? Maybe I am missing something?
     
  11. hwl

    hwl Established Member

    Messages:
    4,114
    Joined:
    5 Feb 2012
    The problem is that everywhere needs more drivers and LNER/VTWC never train they own they recruit from others so GN always lose drivers to LNER.

    The other issue is that GN need more drivers and lots of training for exsiting drivers need training (taking time out for training also increases the driver requirement...) and also limits resources as regards training new drivers.

    And then there are the driver depot alterations as regards Thameslink
     
  12. jellybaby

    jellybaby Member

    Messages:
    249
    Joined:
    27 Dec 2012
    Because the uniform has better pockets?

    Perhaps GN should pay their drivers more to retain them?
     
  13. theking

    theking Member

    Messages:
    345
    Joined:
    30 Sep 2011
    According to the Aslef site they'll be on £63k plus more for sundays, so i don't dont think pay is a problem as that is one of the highest for commuter driving in the country.

    You could probably offer 70k and thr drivers going to LNER would still move as they just want to drive intercity or have aspired to that job.
     
  14. 387star

    387star Established Member

    Messages:
    5,488
    Joined:
    16 Nov 2009
    Strange as huge numbers have been recruited
     
  15. 387star

    387star Established Member

    Messages:
    5,488
    Joined:
    16 Nov 2009
    Runs via streatham so requires south London diversionary knowledge. Most at Horsham sign that now but not sure about Peterborough
     
  16. 387star

    387star Established Member

    Messages:
    5,488
    Joined:
    16 Nov 2009
    They aren't that sought after among qualifieds
     

Share This Page