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Any guesses/hopes/predictions for the World T20? I'm going for the finalists as being two from Sri Lanka, WI and NZ, SL only if Malinga plays, which he should do, though he may miss their first match against Afghanistan. England? I think they might make the semis : they should play a left arm seamer, and they can choose between Topley and Willey. Roy and Hales seem to work well together as an opening pair, my main concern in the batting is their captain, Morgan - it's feast or famine from him, unfortunately rather more often the latter.
 
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Any guesses/hopes/predictions for the World T20? I'm going for the finalists as being two from Sri Lanka, WI and NZ, SL only if Malinga plays, which he should do, though he may miss their first match against Afghanistan. England? I think they might make the semis : they should play a left arm seamer, and they can choose between Topley and Willey. Roy and Hales seem to work well together as an opening pair, my main concern in the batting is their captain, Morgan - it's feast or famine from him, unfortunately rather more often the latter.

I don't think so SL has any chance to make it to semis. They have a relatively new team and all of their players are out of form, including Malinga. My prediction for the semis would be IND, NZ and SA,WI. These four teams have got very suitable players and they can change the match at any point. Virat is in red hot form, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Raina, Rohit, Aswhin, all these players are performing for the last six months. NZ has good lot of good hitters, Martin Guptil, Munro, Taylor, Kane Williamson and has good bowlers too. WI is a surprise package. On their day, they can beat any team in t20 format. Chris Gayle, Bravo, Samules, Smith, Russel, Bandre and list of all-rounders goes on and on. Last but not the least, SA has some solid batting power AB, Faf, Decock, Hash, Millers and than the good bowlers like Styen, Morkel, Tahir, Rabada.
The only reason i write-off England is because they are not good in Sub continent conditions, though they performed exceptionally well against Pak in UAE, which has more of same conditions as Sub continent. For me, Butler is key for England, as he performed brilliantly in the series against Pak.
 
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My prediction for the final is India v SA.

The indians are on home grounds and will be used to the wickets and conditions, and SA because of the firepower they have in both batting (ABdV can change a match in just a couple of overs) and bowling (Steyn is rated the best bowler for the final couple of overs).
 

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My prediction for the final is India v SA.

The indians are on home grounds and will be used to the wickets and conditions, and SA because of the firepower they have in both batting (ABdV can change a match in just a couple of overs) and bowling (Steyn is rated the best bowler for the final couple of overs).

Unless SA ch.. ch... choke like they usually do that is ;)
 

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I think NZ will miss McCullum more than they expect; it seemed like an odd time to retire, just before the world T20.

But, knockout T20 is something of a lottery - anyone can beat anyone. You just need one player to have a good day, or get lucky, and that's enough to win the game.
 

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Anyone feel like revising their predictions for India? :lol:

Currently 43/7 and still require 84 from 58 with 3 wickets remaining...
 

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Anyone feel like revising their predictions for India? :lol:

Currently 43/7 and still require 84 from 58 with 3 wickets remaining...

Not me:lol::lol: India's final total of 79 is the lowest ever total by any side in India, though they managed to beat by five runs their own lowest, which was 74 against Aus in Melbourne.
 
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West Indies v New Zealand anybody? One stat from today's match that may get overlooked is that Chris Jordan only went for 20 runs off the bat i.e. 5 per over, when England's bowlers overall went for over 10. He bowled 13 dot balls out of 24 and got hit for no sixes (Gayle alone hit 11).

Those surprised by India's loss maybe overlooked their four previous T20 games against NZ which were also lost!
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A truly stunning victory for England : a defeat would have meant almost certain elimination from the semi-finals. There are no grounds for complacency though - the ploy of playing two left-handed semi-quick opening bowlers is not working and almost cost us this match. In a high-scoring game, Morgan's 'contribution' in the chase almost cost us too, with him not managing to find the boundary once.

It may have gone unnoticed in all the furore that once again NZ, batting first and scoring an apparently beatable score, restricted Australia to a lower total, and won by eight runs. Their spinners did a magnificent job. Now who was saying NZ wouldn't get anywhere without Brendon?
 
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And what was the result again?

Hardly one to crow about I'd have thought, especially after reading how Morgan and the side were going to be so well prepared

Other than that I couldn't give a fig if they cancelled the whole tournament and played cricket instead .........
 

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One of the Afghan bowlers didn't concede a single boundary in his four overs. Liam Plunkett, recalled to the side, was England's most economical bowler, and had 13 dot balls out of 24.
 

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Hardly one to crow about I'd have thought, especially after reading how Morgan and the side were going to be so well prepared

Other than that I couldn't give a fig if they cancelled the whole tournament and played cricket instead .........

A 20 over score of 142-7 against Afghanistan is something for England to ponder over in terms of match preparation in a World Twenty20 match...<(
I don't think anyone is crowing, and there is no doubt it was a poor score. However, England did win. In this form of the game any ball can create a mishap, and innings like this are to be expected. Sometimes it is lack of preparation, sometimes a pitch that suits the bowlers more than expected, and sometimes just bad luck.
Of course, the excessive use of ":lol:" could be seen as a form of reverse crowing, which belies the truth of the second paragraph from ExRes.
 

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Of course, the excessive use of ":lol:" could be seen as a form of reverse crowing, which belies the truth of the second paragraph from ExRes.

Are you accusing me of being a cheat?, reverse crowing was outlawed by the BCCI, oops sorry, the ICC some time ago as far as I'm aware
 

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England qualify for the T2o semi-finals.

:oops: Only just realised today what the back of Joe Root's shirt says = ROOT 66
 

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West Indies, New Zealand, England and, now, India will be the semi-finalists in the World T20. India deservedly beat Australia by 6 wickets with 5 balls to spare : Aussies batting first got off to a flier, then stagnated in overs 5 to 12. India got off to a much slower start, and lost 3 wickets before reaching 50 but, crucially, Kohli was still there, as he was at the end with 82 not out. Kohli's average in successful T20 run chases for India is a remarkable 122.83 in 15 innings! Michael Bevan, eat your heart out! One other observation - Yuvraj Singh had his first bowl of the tournament and got S. Smith out first ball.

In the other, less consequential (in tournament terms) game Afghanistan defended their total of 123 to beat WI by a few runs and, in so doing, achieved their first-ever win over a major side. I hope they will be given the opportunity to play more games against the test countries, but I fear money will talk loudest.
 

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That's not what S. Smith thought:lol:

The replay I saw on Cricinfo had something on Snickometer, or whatever it's called - maybe it wasn't bat? Still, too late to worry about that:lol:
By the way, why did Australia not accept the lessons of this tournament and use spin?

Oh, just realised the answer to the above. It's a fluke that the Kiwis won all four of their games by this method, of course!
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England have beaten NZ in the semi final: Buttler 32 not out hit the winning six with 17 balls to spare, with Joe Root not out at the other end. NZ, as usual, batted first and, again as usual, didn't get an imposing total, being 153-8, but failed to strangle their oppos on this occasion. Well done England! We'll know tomorrow whether it's India or West Indies we face in the final.
 
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Let us not forget the contribution of Roy, the England opening batsman, who scored 78 from only 44 balls with 2 x 6 and 11 x 4, to put the England reply on a very sure footing.

Absolutely, he really 'came of age' today. I remember tipping him on here a couple of years ago, saying it was despite his county being Surrey, rather than because of it,:)
 

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Just proves how wrong are the people who say the West Indies batting is reliant on Chris Gayle, who was bowled for 5. Lendl Simmons was only playing because of an injury to Andre Fletcher.

Both England and West Indies have won this competition before, but no team has (yet) won it twice. If England are looking for an omen in their favour, they'll probably go with Paul Collingwood, as captain of the 2010 winning team, hardly able to beg a run, like Morgan's two successive golden ducks here.
 

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A no ball (1) can be hit for 6 (7) resulting in a free hit which could also be hit for 6 (=13 total).

A number of wickets haven't been out because they were a no-ball. Which suggests to me the umpires are missing a lot of deliveries which didn't result in wickets but were no-balls but not called (thus depriving the batsman of a free hit).

The batsman, AFAIK, can't appeal to the umpire to check to see if a ball he hit for four was a no-ball, only if he's out.

So, isn't it time for technology to alert everyone the instant a delivery is over the line? Tennis has hawkeye, curling has a magnetic strip....surely cricket can come up with somehting as these games are often so close a free-hit could make all the difference?
 

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A no ball (1) can be hit for 6 (7) resulting in a free hit which could also be hit for 6 (=13 total).

A number of wickets haven't been out because they were a no-ball. Which suggests to me the umpires are missing a lot of deliveries which didn't result in wickets but were no-balls but not called (thus depriving the batsman of a free hit).

The batsman, AFAIK, can't appeal to the umpire to check to see if a ball he hit for four was a no-ball, only if he's out.

So, isn't it time for technology to alert everyone the instant a delivery is over the line? Tennis has hawkeye, curling has a magnetic strip....surely cricket can come up with somehting as these games are often so close a free-hit could make all the difference?

But in the current competition in India the available technology is not allowed to be used to establish whether a batsman hit a ball or was really out LBW (in other words, DRS) which imo is a lot more important than whether a bowler was a fraction of an inch over the line! T20, even more than cricket generally now, is more of a batsman's game than ever.:)
 

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