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Pakenhamtrain

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Stumps day 2 at the Adelaide oval and Australia have motored along nicely. Khawaja easily the pick of the batsmen with a very measured 138 not out. SA have struck but still a very even contest.
Smith though needs a lesson on running. Ran himself out when we were in a very nice position.
AUS: 6/307.
Khawaja 138*
Abbott 3/38.
 

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The morning session of the Test Match sees England at 92-4 at lunch with Cook, Hameed, Root and Moeen all dismissed. Only Hameed's dismissal could be described as unfortunate, as the other three batsmen did not show good judgement in their choice of shots. India must feel well pleased.
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Day 1 closed with England on 268-8. Of all the England batsmen, only Bairstow with 89 and Buttler with 43 exceeded the 30 run mark.
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Jimmy Anderson, in that last test, got a 'king pair'. It was only England's fourth such instance, and the first since 1906! They also represented his 20th and 21st test ducks, the latter setting a new England record. To think Jimmy also holds the record for most innings before recording his first duck = 54.

Noting your posting about the previous Test Match above, Jimmy Anderson decided to put an end to such unfortunate statistics and came out to bat in a different mind frame and scored 13 not out from 9 balls. a strike rate of 144.44. which was the highest strike rate of all the England batsmen.

Shami dismissed both Rashid and Woakes at the start of day 2 with England all out for 283. The wicket looks one to really deteriorate as the match progresses.
 

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Day 2 of the Test Match saw a distinct change in fortunes for both sides as India, who once were 156-5, saw a more determined batting performance take place and at close of play, were 271-6, just 12 runs behind the England first innings total.
 

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Rashid's bowling average under 40 for the first time in his test career. He also bowled two consecutive maidens for the very first time, not that maidens have ever been a great consideration for leggies, but even so... Batty was shown scant respect for the few overs he was belatedly allowed to bowl.
 

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Day 3 of the Test Match saw India move from their overnight score of 271-6 to 417 all out, thanks to their lower order batsmen:-
No 7...Ashwin 72
No 8...Jajeda 90
No 9...J.Yadav 55

England will need a new opening batsman in the second innings to open with Cook, owing to the injury to Hameed.
 

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England have recovered from first innings deficits to win tests in Asia - one by 7 runs and the other by 17, both against Pakistan. The highest deficit a touring team has recovered from to win in India is 65 runs, by Bobby Simpson's Australians in 1964. so the auguries weren't good when England went in for the second time, and are a darned sight less now - it is not known whether Hameed will bat, but, unless a Colin Cowdrey at Lords situation arises, which is about as likely as a Jeremy Corbyn election win, it seems probably not.
 

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Day 4 of the Test Match saw Root dismissed for 78 with the total at 152-7. Hameed will bat at number 8, despite the injury to his little finger sustained earlier in the match.

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England moved on to 195-9 before a last wicket stand of 41 between Hameed and Anderson took the score to 236 all out when Anderson was run out. Hameed faced 156 balls, batting with an injured finger, finishing undefeated on 59 not out with 1 x 6 and 6 x 4.

India soon saw off the required target at five runs per over and finished on 104-2, winning the Test Match by eight wickets.

Hameed will take no further part in this tour
 
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some of the first innings shot selection from England was poor on what is held to be a good batting track an second innings we just crashed. It is fine for the lower order batsmen to try aggressive shots but top order chaps need to eat up time at the middle and bore the spinners out. Not good enough.

Hameed - 59 not out in the second innings with one hand deserves praise.
 

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Hameed will take no further part in this tour

Now England's selection policy for the Tests part of the tour really comes into focus - Vic Marks, that most mild-mannered of commentators, was saying before this test that Ansari, Ballance and Duckett were now 'unselectable' which was the same as said about Finn, Tremlett and Rankin at the same stage of the last tour down under. Why was another batsman not chosen just in case Gary Ballance proved once again that he's not a test batsman? Choosing two new openers was so short-sighted when it was evident that Hameed had such class and patience : Duckett's chance should have been restricted to the one-dayers, though now presumably he will have to open again.

The loss of the match, though, when you compare the details was through England only having one effective spinner, Rashid, whereas India had three. But then Graeme Swann was never expected to bat at no. 3 as Mooen Ali was!
 

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England could try Joe Root as opening batsman and if Ben Duckett does return to the squad, he could bat further down the order.
 

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Speaking as one who didn't rate Ian Bell at the start of his Test career, it seems now the height of stubborness to maintain his exclusion while the new tryouts are (Hameed excepted) proving their unreadiness, maybe unfitness, for this level. He could even open (I think that he'd be happy to do that, carry the drinks and push the roller, if it meant getting back). Vaguely related, I looked up Mike Atherton's Test opening partners:

G.A.Gooch, W.Larkins, R.A.Smith, M.N.Lathwell, A.J.Stewart, N.V.Knight, J.P.Crawley, M.A.Butcher, S.P.James, D.L.Maddy, M.R.Ramprakash and M.E.Trescothick (in chronological order) - spot any duds there?
 

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England could try Joe Root as opening batsman and if Ben Duckett does return to the squad, he could bat further down the order.

Duckett doesn't appear to have a clue against Ashwin, so I can't see that achieves anything, and messing Root around (he started as an opener, remember) is just asking for his remarkable run against India, of at least a fifty every match, to fizzle out. There is talk of bringing Kieron Jennings to the party, but I would have thought another right-handed batsman is what is needed, in which case Daniel Bell-Drummond would be my preference. Whatever happens, Ballance decidedly does not deserve another chance.
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Speaking as one who didn't rate Ian Bell at the start of his Test career, it seems now the height of stubborness to maintain his exclusion while the new tryouts are (Hameed excepted) proving their unreadiness, maybe unfitness, for this level. He could even open (I think that he'd be happy to do that, carry the drinks and push the roller, if it meant getting back). Vaguely related, I looked up Mike Atherton's Test opening partners:

G.A.Gooch, W.Larkins, R.A.Smith, M.N.Lathwell, A.J.Stewart, N.V.Knight, J.P.Crawley, M.A.Butcher, S.P.James, D.L.Maddy, M.R.Ramprakash and M.E.Trescothick (in chronological order) - spot any duds there?

Smith and Butcher carved out careers in the middle order. Lathwell was feted rather as Hameed has been, but, unlike Hameed, he couldn't cope with the pressure and so sunk without trace. Nick Knight was a marvellous one-day player, Darren Maddy was considered the first English batsman to get to grips with T20, but was never a test batsman in a million years, and as for Mark Ramprakash.... sighs, probably the most stylish of the lot and maybe the most talented too. If ever you compiled an 'if only' list, his name would probably be at the top.
 

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Jennings has just hit an unbeaten century for England Lions, so is at least in form.
 

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Another Durham player in the test squad. Not bad for a second division side............

...but of course they shouldn't be a second division side! (as agreed earlier). Jennings has had offers from other counties, but I hope he will show some loyalty...at the moment that is looking good.
 

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Another Durham player in the test squad. Not bad for a second division side............

Although his runs last season, the basis for his selection now, were all in the first division of course. A justified promotion imo, unlike 'Les' Dawson with his career bowling average of 37 plus.:-x
 

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For some bizzare reason we have a 3 game ODI series with NZ between the two test series.

Game 1 of this series was at the SCG.
Australia won the toss and chose to bat first.
Smith lead the way for Australia scoring 164 and taking a super catch that no doubt will be appearing in the classic catches segments in years to come.
Guptill lead a fightback scoreing 114 but was dismissed and it went downhill from there.

AUS: 8/324 in 50 overs.
Smith 164
Boult 2/51

NZ: 256 in 44.2 overs
Guptill 114
Hazelwood 3/49.
 

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A great knock by second division Durham debutante for England Keaton Jennings: 112

This helped England to 288-5 at the close of play on day one.
 

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A great knock by second division Durham debutante for England Keaton Jennings: 112

This helped England to 288-5 at the close of play on day one.

That's England's summer sorted, Jennings and Hameed to open, with Cook and Anderson fighting over spots 10 and 11! If Jennings continues in this and the final Test, Cook could be thinking of letting him and Hameed open in the summer and move down to 3.

Or would England not risk two still relatively inexperienced players up top??
 
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Australia wrapped up the 3 game ODI series with a 117 run win at the MCG.
Warner was the pick of the batsmen with 156 on what was a slow pitch.
AUS: 8/264
Warner 156
Boult 3/49

NZ: 147
Guptill 34
Starc 3/34.
 

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India were 307-6 last time that I checked, having been 262-2 at one stage.

Root had just dismissed both Patel and Ashwin in the space of four balls.
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It all went downhill from there for England, as at close of play India were 451-7 with Kohli 147 not out and J. Yadav 30 not out.
 

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Just in case anyone is in the dark, Jennings became the fourth England player to make a hundred on his first day in test cricket. The first was W.G.Grace, so not a bad pedigree!

The thinking, I gather, is that Cook will continue to open (but, I'd caution, that assumes he continues as captain after this almost-certainly-lost series) and either Hameed or Jennings will bat at 3. Jennings started as a no. 3, and Hameed would make for a left/right handed partnership. It is recognised that Root's promotion to 3 from 4 has not been an unalloyed success, and he should resume his old position. The assertion by Trevor Bayliss that the best batsman should bat at 3 is not born out by history - even today, Kohli bats at 4, and I'd say overall that is where your best batsman bats. In some cases,the no. 5 position was favoured by a team's star batsman.
 

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The stand between Kohli and J Yadav ground on remorselessly onwards at the start of the fourth day and thanks to them, with scores of 235 and 104 respectively, India were not all out until the score reached 631 all out, a lead of 231.
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Just in case anyone is in the dark, Jennings became the fourth England player to make a hundred on his first day in test cricket. The first was W.G.Grace, so not a bad pedigree

How many of those other three batsmen mentioned above besides Jennings scored a century in the first innings and a first ball duck in the second innings, as has just occurred to Jennings, lbw first ball in the England second innings
 

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If we can't get Kohli out for low scores, I think the time has come to bowl really negatively to him. Bowl where he can't hit it.

How many batsmen have gone from a century in their 1st test innings to a golden duck?
 

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How many of those other three batsmen mentioned above besides Jennings scored a century in the first innings and a first ball duck in the second innings, as has just occurred to Jennings, lbw first ball in the England second innings

I don't know the answer to that, but the odds are on none I'd have thought. Jennings was dropped on nought in the first innings, so his career could have started just like Graham Gooch's i.e. a pair in his first test. The last England batsman before Jennings to score a century on his first day in test cricket was Billy Griffith in the year of my birth, 1948, and Griffith hardly had an illustrious test career, being far better known as an official with the MCC and other such bodies in later life.
 

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A batting debacle somewhat reminiscent of a certain England tour of Australia not so long ago saw England proceed to move from a second innings score of 180-4 to 195 all out, with Ashwin taking the final six wickets to fall, finishing with an innings bowling return of 20.3-3-55-6.

India win by an innings and 36 runs.
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If we can't get Kohli out for low scores, I think the time has come to bowl really negatively to him. Bowl where he can't hit it.

I am beginning to believe that there is nowhere where Kohli, in his current batting form, cannot strike a ball..:roll:
 

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The schedule for the 2017-18 Ashes series has just been announced, with two big changes to the previous series.

The first major change is that the second Test at Adelaide Oval will be a day/night match played with the pink Kookaburra ball. Adelaide Oval has hosted two day/night Tests so far (with total crowds of 249,729 from just seven days of play!) with Dubai (Pak v WI last month) the only other venue so far and the Gabba to join them later this week.

If the same schedule is used as in the first two day/night Tests at Adelaide Oval, play will start at 2:00pm (3:30am UTC) and finish no earlier than 9:00pm (10:30am UTC).

Sunset during next year's match will be about 8:15pm, but the lights will start to get switched on during the dinner break so they can ensure consistent conditions during the first half of the third session as the sun dips behind the Chappell/Bradman/Smith stands along the western side of the ground.

The other big change is that the third Test in Perth is planned to take place at the Perth Stadium if it is ready in time, and the WACA Ground if not. The plan for cricket at Perth Stadium is to have second-generation drop-in pitches which mimic the behaviour of the permanent pitches used at the WACA, a bit like how it is done at Adelaide Oval where the drop-in Test pitches have played very much like the Test pitches did before redevelopment.
 

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