Cross Country 170 Diagrams

Discussion in 'Allocations, Diagrams & Timetables' started by Class 403, 11 Aug 2018.

  1. Class 403

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    Does anyone have the workings for these at all, I'm especially interested in the Birmingham to Peterborough via Leicester workings more so to know what they're diagrammed to be ie 2 car, 3 car, 5 car etc...
     
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  3. TheBigD

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    Mondays to Saturdays...

    Birmingham to Peterborough departures...
    0519 3sx 2so
    0622 3
    0722 3
    0822 3sx 2so
    0922 3
    1022 3
    1122 3sx 2so
    1222 3
    1322 2sx 3so
    1422 2sx 3so
    1522 3sx 2so
    1622 3
    1652 3sx
    1722 3
    1822 3sx 2so
    1922 2sx 3so
    2022 2sx 3so

    Peterborough to Birmingham departures...
    0610 3sx 2so
    0652 3sx 2so
    0752 3
    0852 2sx 3so
    0952 2sx 3so
    1052 3sx 2so
    1152 3
    1252 3
    1352 3sx 2so
    1452 3
    1552 3
    1652 3sx 2so
    1752 3
    1852 2sx 3so
    1952 2sx 3so
    2052 3sx 2so
    2152 3sx

    Sundays...

    Birmingham to Peterborough departures...
    1122 3
    1222 2+2
    1322 3
    1422 3
    1522 2
    1622 3
    1722 3
    1822 3
    1922 2
    2022 2

    Peterborough to Birmingham departures...
    1152 3
    1252 3
    1352 3
    1452 2
    1552 2
    1652 3
    1752 2+2
    1852 3
    1952 3
    2052 2
     
  4. Class 403

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    @TheBigD You sir are fantastic, would you happen to have the Leicester to Birmingham shuttles too at all?
     
  5. TheBigD

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    All SX Leicester-Birmingham are 3 car except...
    0720 2+2
    1218 2
    1318 2
    1718 2+3
    1818 2
    2228 2

    All SX Birmingham-Leicester are 3 car except...
    1052 2
    1152 2
    1609 2
    1709 2
    2052 2
    2222 double unit but not sure if 2+2, 2+3 or 3+3

    Not too sure about the Saturdays and Sundays though except that the Sunday's 0952 Birmingham /1118 Leicester are 2+2...
     
  6. Class 403

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    Brilliant, least I know now which services to avoid ie the 2 car sets, thank you :)
     
  7. chubs

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    Are they that rigid?

    From catching the same weekday train from Ely to Stansted multiple occasions it's generally a 50/50 if you get a 2 or 3 car (or any train at all some days....)
     
  8. TheBigD

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    That's what's booked... Often changes when there's disruption or engineering work...

    From general observation the 0622 off Birmingham and associated diagram is shortformed quite often but the others seem to be pretty reliable...
     
  9. Class 403

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    Indeed a few months ago when they were turning back the XC's at Peterborough and bussing them to Ely/Cambridge, it was so nice to actually be able to board at Peterborough AND get a seat so I'm grateful that whatever the engineering works was, it meant the train back wasn't as busy as it would have been!

    As to the first three off Birmingham in the Peterborough direction and the last three off Peterborough in the Birmingham direction how busy can they be?
     
  10. TheBigD

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    0519 ex Birmingham is pretty empty until Stamford/Peterborough...
    0622 ex Birmingham is similar...
    0722 ex Birmingham fills up between Nuneaton and Leicester but quiet afterwards..

    1952 ex Peterborough has plenty of room...
    2052 ex Peterborough is similar...
    2152 ex Peterborough is empty....Single figures some evenings...
     
  11. Class 403

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    That's very helpful, should mean that I don't need to book a seat - usually when I use XC it means having to book the priority seats just for the legroom as the airline seats are awful and cramp!
     

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