Cross Country class 170's to Bristol yesterday.

Discussion in 'Traction & Rolling Stock' started by 83G/84D, 29 Sep 2017.

  1. bignosemac

    bignosemac Established Member

    Messages:
    4,915
    Joined:
    12 Oct 2009
    Any passengers for Bristol to Birmingham will be better served by the the 0630 XC Voyager from Bristol TM. That service passes the Stansted train while it is calling at Gloucester.
     
  2. VT 390

    VT 390 Member

    Messages:
    518
    Joined:
    7 Dec 2018
    So the only Bristol passengers who will use it will be those going to Gloucester, which there can't be many of at that time of day?
     
  3. swt_passenger

    swt_passenger Veteran Member

    Messages:
    19,086
    Joined:
    7 Apr 2010
    There isn’t a service yet, so perhaps it will generate some new passengers? I reckon you’re possibly overthinking this...
     
  4. Kite159

    Kite159 Veteran Member

    Messages:
    12,336
    Joined:
    27 Jan 2014
    Location:
    West of Andover
    Maybe XC have a cunning plan to sell cheap advances for stations to Birmingham on that 170 and blocking advances for stations to Birmingham on the 06:30 :lol:
     
  5. Tom Quinne

    Tom Quinne Member

    Messages:
    869
    Joined:
    8 Jul 2017
    ATW/TfW depot drivers didn’t sign the 170s, they do sign 158s so the continued stabling of GWR sets isn’t an issue until the TfW fleet is replaced of course...
     
  6. 221129

    221129 Established Member

    Messages:
    3,738
    Joined:
    21 Mar 2011
    Location:
    Sunny Scotland
    Some did. Which was causing the problems.
     
  7. PHILIPE

    PHILIPE Established Member

    Messages:
    9,568
    Joined:
    14 Nov 2011
    Location:
    Caerphilly
    They will be signing 170s before very long when the TFW allocation starts to take place.
     
  8. Tom Quinne

    Tom Quinne Member

    Messages:
    869
    Joined:
    8 Jul 2017
    Indeed, but it doesn’t help the period in between.

    Knowing how cost increasingly obsessed the railway is TfW drivers won’t be “trained” to drive XC 170s for some minor technical reason - like XC drivers can’t drive VT voyagers due to the tilt being isolated on the former thus not competent.
     
  9. 43074

    43074 Established Member

    Messages:
    1,509
    Joined:
    10 Oct 2012
    It's just an example of what would otherwise be an empty stock movement being advertised for passenger service, there's quite a few examples of that - there's no extra cost involved in running it in passenger service instead of empty so what's the problem?
     
  10. VT 390

    VT 390 Member

    Messages:
    518
    Joined:
    7 Dec 2018
    I did not realise that it already ran empty stock from Bristol.
     
  11. Ianno87

    Ianno87 Established Member

    Messages:
    3,965
    Joined:
    3 May 2015
    Think it comes from Tyseley at the moment? Coming from Bristol instead is probably fewer miles to cover to reach Gloucester and getting a passenger service out of it for 'free' as a result.
     
  12. 43074

    43074 Established Member

    Messages:
    1,509
    Joined:
    10 Oct 2012
    Yes it's detached from the rear of a morning Birmingham to Cardiff service at the moment. It seems to be a balancing working for an additional Birmingham to Gloucester service from the new timetable which I would assume will be using Bristol based traincrew so it makes sense for the stock to end up there as well.
     
  13. John Clausen

    John Clausen Member

    Messages:
    446
    Joined:
    26 Apr 2018
    Me too. I've always liked 170s and disliked Voyagers.
     

Share This Page