CrossCountry Turbostar 'Refresh' and Wifi

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  1. XCTurbostar

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    Hi all,

    This has been going on behind the scenes and hasn't really been discussed so here we go.

    Improvements include;
    Engine and undercarriage overhaul (C6)
    New Cab door seals
    New Carpets
    New seat covers
    WiFi (All units now have WiFi installed)
    General Clean-up
    Removal of 'Search Engine' branding and returns to original XC branding

    Currently Refurbished
    170101 (28-10-2014)
    Involved in Collision with Car 20/07/2015
    Back in service with new cab 25/08/2015
    170112 (02-12-2014)
    170113 (05-01-2015)
    170103 (09-02-2015)
    170102 (17-03-2015)
    170114 (08-04-2015)
    170115 (08-05-2015)
    170116 (09-06-2015)
    170104 (07-07-2015)
    170117 (29-07-2015)
    170105 (24-08-2015)
    170518 (28-09-2015)
    170106 (15-10-2015)
    170519 (19-11-2015)
    170523 (14-12-2015)
    170107 (18-01-2016)
    170108 (08-02-2016)
    170521 (10-03-2016)
    170522 (21-04-2016)
    170109 (13-06-2016)
    170110 (23-06-2016)

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
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  2. 387star

    387star Established Member

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    Is the internal colour scheme remaining the same

    Thanks
     
  3. XCTurbostar

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    The carpet colour has changed but the main layout/colour scheme has stayed the same.

    Table updated to include other WiFi enabled unit, 170518.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
  4. bb21

    bb21 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Is the WiFi free for Standard pax?
     
  5. bungle965

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    I don't think it will be.
    Wifi in standard on voyagers are not.
     
  6. CallySleeper

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    Hoo************ray. Horrendous example of advertising and branding.

    We can wish but wouldn't have thought so, would have thought it would be an extension of the Voyagers contract XC have with three or whatever they're called these days.
     
  7. HSTfan!!!

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    Was quite surprised my phone picked up wifi on a turbo a week or two ago. Same sort of system as on voyagers as far as I could tell.
     
  8. hassaanhc

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    Have seen at least one FGW Turbo fitted with Wi Fi, using a dome-shaped transmitter on the ceiling, one that is also used by SWT.
     
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    Probably not. However, I imagine it would be very difficult to stop standard class ticket holders who are travelling in coach A being able to access it, given that first class is in this coach
     
  10. XCTurbostar

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    Was on 170103 this morning sat in the seat next to the aisle closest to the first class door. Got the first class signal and was actually really reliable!

    First post has been updated to include 170115 which has now returned from Crewe refurbished but does not have WiFi.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
  11. XCTurbostar

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    Was on 170101 this afternoon which had posters informing people about the WiFi - but with no wifi available!

    Thanks,
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  12. trentside

    trentside Established Member Senior Fares Advisor

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    I also couldn't pick up the Wi-Fi on 170101 the other day.

    I also traveled on two un-refreshed units earlier in the day and couldn't perceive any noticeable difference between them and 170101. I think a few months in service has rendered their efforts moot.
     
  13. 1e10

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    I doubt it, Voyagers are charging for Wi-Fi even with their metallic windows!

    However there is a technical flaw with the Wi-Fi on CrossCountry's Voyagers that allows anybody with the right technical knowledge to access the internet without paying.
     
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    It's hard to know which ones have been refurbished and which ones haven't. In one cab on one of the refurbished units some wag has stuck a sticker saying CrapRefurbs.Com
     
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    do turbostars ever come to Reading?
     
  16. trentside

    trentside Established Member Senior Fares Advisor

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    Nope, only Voyagers I believe.

    Though I think the Turbostars do sometimes venture up to Manchester.
     
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    AFAIK it's happened once.
     
  18. ainsworth74

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    It's happened a few times but is admittedly quite rare.
     
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    170s to Manchester has happened around half a dozen times. Never to Reading as yet though
     
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    Yep gladly so the services are busy enough already.Although saying that i would rather have a 170 than nothing.
     
  21. XCTurbostar

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    First post updated to include 170101, which has now had WiFi added.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
  22. Kristofferson

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    Stand in a FC vestibule, login, return to Standard. Same on any wifi train as far as I know, certainly on VTWC and VTEC. Not rocket science ;)
     
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    That won't work on an XC Voyager. Cant speak for Virgin though.

    I suspect I know the flaw but I shan't publicise it as it's provided for a purpose and if it gets misused, it'll just get turned off.
     
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    First Post has been updated to include Un-refurbished 170117, which has now had WiFi installed but only in Standard Class. First Class does not have free access.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
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    It has been refurbished yes. It looks way too clean to be an unrefurbished one.

    It's been a while since I've updated this thread so here's an update;

    Refurbished XC 170s to date:
    170101 (28-10-2014)
    Involved in Collision with Car 20/07/2015
    Back in service with new cab 25/08/2015
    170112 (02-12-2014)
    170113 (05-01-2015)
    170103 (09-02-2015)
    170102 (17-03-2015)
    170114 (08-04-2015)
    170115 (08-05-2015)
    170116 (09-06-2015)
    170104 (07-07-2015)
    170117 (29-07-2015)
    170105 (24-08-2015)

    170111 is the final 2 coach 170/1 to be refurbished
    No 170/3s Refurbished
    No 170/5s Refurbished
    No 170/6s Refurbished

    WiFi installed;
    It is assumed that all XC Class 170s have WiFi included although I am unable to confirm this because I only travel on two a day!
    170101
    170102
    170103
    170105
    170106
    170108
    170109
    170110
    170111 (Showing as 170519?) Now Fixed 20/07/2015
    170114
    170115
    170116
    170117
    170397
    170518
    170520
    170521
    170636
    170637
    170638
    170639

    WiFi in First Class is the same as the standard Class although posters stating that the First Class ticket holder must ask the guard on the train for a code to access 4 hours worth of free WiFi have begun to appear in the First Class area of the coach.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
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    This is absolutely pathetic.
    Do XC really value stopping standard class ticket holders getting free WiFi more than getting ticket revenue from unstaffed stations, and many Turbostars travel in multiple with 1 guard so is free WiFi only available to those in the rear unit.
     
  28. XCTurbostar

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    A valid point! I agree with you it is not acceptable. This could potentially mean that if the guard doesn't come down your Cardiff Central to Nottingham train that you will have no choice but to just sit there with no WiFi at all.. Or Pay.

    I'll try and get a picture of the poster for you also :)

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
  29. The47Wanderer

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    Travelled on a XC Turbostar today (first time on a 170 since '03!). Must say, the seats are considerably more comfy than the voyager seats. Surprised, however, the refurbs didn't include an easier way to identify seats/reservations!
     
  30. Wolfie

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    You have to love the inconsistencies within Arriva. Chiltern has some of the best free wifi going and competitive fares. Cross Country has rip off fares and this sort of penny-pinching.

    Absolutely pathetic and the sooner they lose the Cross Country franchise the better!
     
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