CrossCountry (XC) HST modifications including power doors

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  1. sprinterguy

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    No problem. :smile:
     
  2. Andy Pacer

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    I noticed a rake of XC mk3’s parked at Doncaster yesterday morning, are these there for the modifications?
     
  3. 221129

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    Yes. XC01
     
  4. CC 72100

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    Not the finest of hours for the XC power door set today- F and G locked out, guessing a door fault?
     
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    No power to the TGS apparently and coach F has been locked out for weeks.
     
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    Thanks for that - Ah yes, I do remember about F, plenty of '6 vice 7' messages about that one, on my only trip on the power door set it was indeed 2+6 with troublesome F left behind. Touch wood the GWR short set has been more reliable, but I suppose with 50% less doors to go wrong it should be! ;)
     
  7. nat67

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    Talking of this I saw a photo on Railway Herald a few days back and a set, not sure which but it looked like it only had load 6 not 7.
     
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    Currently on XC03. Noticed the toilet in coach B (non-accessible first class) has been removed but that a toilet now exists directly oppisite in coach C which isn’t currently on the XC HST layout. Not sure if this is a modification or if the coach has been flipped around.

    Presumably these units now have retention tanks?
     
  9. Liverpool 507

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    The refurbished Mark 3's have CET tanks.
     
  10. 158820

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    Any news on progress of the 2nd set! 50 weeks to go!
     
  11. nat67

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    The set (Coach) could have been swapped around at Laira at some point?
     
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    Its a modification.
     
  13. 221129

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    Not due back until March at the earliest.
     
  14. 158820

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    Thanks
     
  15. Helvellyn

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    Isn't this because the design of the Mark 3 makes retro-fitting the retention tank easier at one end of the coach?
     
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    Yes. Toilet tanks can only be (easily) fitted at the no. 1 end of a Mark 3; the no. 2 end has the brake frame and air tanks at that end of the underframe.
     
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    Six coaches of Sliding Door XC01 is currently on-route to Laira from Doncaster with 43153 and 43154 (GWR Powercars) providing power.
     
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    With XC04 to go back the other way tomorrow morning.
     
  19. Charlie Smythe

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    Sorry to quote a post from almost a year ago. There is not point to it, slam doors are perfectly fine. Just put a handle on the inside so you don't have to reach out the windows. Power doors on mk3's are the biggest waste of money, biggest pain in the backside and most inconvenient project there is.
     
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    The formation of today's train is as follows......

    Note 2 of those coaches have been in Wabterc for over 2 years..... 42097 42342

    1400 Doncaster Wabtec to Laira

    43154

    41193

    45001

    42097

    42374

    42342

    44021

    43153

    SC 43090
     
  21. 158820

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    About time. At least some progress is being made.
     
  22. 7522

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    Will a 7th coach follow on later for this set?
     
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    I would guess so as it has been mentioned somewhere else that a few more Mk3's have been spotted at Doncaster already being worked on.
     
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    Sometimes the coach with the large access prm toilet seems to be come along later. This happened with some of the GWR Gtis anyway
     
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    That makes sense thanks

    Hopefully the 7th coach will follow not too far behind
     
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    No they're not, that's why they'll be illegal post Decmeber 2019
     
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    Roughly translates as -

    "Stupid disability discrimination act removing ones ability of 'window hang'..."
     
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    Yesterday Tuesday 30th April, while working out at Tiverton Parkway, just after 7pm I saw 6 XC HST power door coaches, sandwiched between 2 GWR power cars, one which was 43154, pull up short on the platform, with some sort of filming going on in the cab, proper big tv grade camera with cameraman, made me wander what was going on, all a bit weird, anyone know what was going on?
     
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    The 6 XC Mk3's were heading from Doncaster Wabtec to Laira after completion of PRM mods. The filming thing I haven't a clue about.
     
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    That's why 43016+43040 went up they other day to collect one.
     

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