Crossrail - another £825m agreed 1 December 2020

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Hear, hear! This project could do with a firm kick up the arse and some positive thinking and action.
 

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I must say, the stations do all look amazing. I can't wait until they open (& I can go and visit them without thinking about Covid!)
 

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I must say, the stations do all look amazing. I can't wait until they open (& I can go and visit them without thinking about Covid!)
I do wonder which will come first. I'm looking forward to taking my mask on a journey from Reading to Shenfield.
 

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I do wonder which will come first. I'm looking forward to taking my mask on a journey from Reading to Shenfield.
Facemasks will be long gone by the time there is a train from reading to shenfield given the reading trains are only planned to go to abbey wood.
 

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One thing I am curious about is changing if the only section is open is to Abbey Wood - I imagine Whitechapel wouldn't actually be a change and you'd have an out of system interchange at Liverpool St to the mainline station if you want to head on East?
 

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I do wish that Crossrail PR would hold themselves back until they actually had achieved something for the passenger. "Look at these escalators which nobody can use for a long time yet" is not really valuable. And whoever wrote "construction works sufficiently finished for final commissioning activities to start" clearly never went to building college. Commissioning is an integral part of the overall project.

All reminiscent of the PR hoopla some years ago on Thameslink about the "completion" of the Borough Market widening, when in fact the track had not been installed and was not going to be for the next two years - concealed by clever accompanying photographs which didn't show the trackbed.
 

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I do wish that Crossrail PR would hold themselves back until they actually had achieved something for the passenger. "Look at these escalators which nobody can use for a long time yet" is not really valuable. And whoever wrote "construction works sufficiently finished for final commissioning activities to start" clearly never went to building college. Commissioning is an integral part of the overall construction.

All reminiscent of the PR hoopla some years ago on Thameslink about the "completion" of the Borough Market widening, when in fact the track had not been installed and was not going to be for the next two years - concealed by clever accompanying photographs which didn't show the trackbed.

Not to mention a viable timetable running!
 

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One thing I am curious about is changing if the only section is open is to Abbey Wood - I imagine Whitechapel wouldn't actually be a change and you'd have an out of system interchange at Liverpool St to the mainline station if you want to head on East?
Liverpool Street will be an OSI anyway for the cheshunt /Enfield town overground services
 

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I do wish that Crossrail PR would hold themselves back until they actually had achieved something for the passenger. "Look at these escalators which nobody can use for a long time yet" is not really valuable. And whoever wrote "construction works sufficiently finished for final commissioning activities to start" clearly never went to building college. Commissioning is an integral part of the overall project.

All reminiscent of the PR hoopla some years ago on Thameslink about the "completion" of the Borough Market widening, when in fact the track had not been installed and was not going to be for the next two years - concealed by clever accompanying photographs which didn't show the trackbed.
According to the Crossrail website:

The station has reached its T-12 landmark, this means the station is now considered to be 12 weeks away from being ready for handover to Transport for London (TfL), who will operate the Elizabeth line.
I seem to recall a while back that the testing, certification and commissioning stages had started for Paddington last year. XR are suggesting it'll be handed over in 3 months.
 

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I really don't think it's a landmark one part of the Crossrail management structure handing over to another part. Of course, the PR team haven't had a lot to do since 2018 ...
 

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I was interested to read that many of the contractors working on Crossrail are likely to be affected by the IR35 tax rules. One of the rules, which says that people should be treated as employees if they work for a particular employer for more than a specified length of time. This could result in many contractors leaving the project. The alternative is they become full-time employees and as many of the consortia building stations are nearly finished they won't be planning to take on new full-time employees.
 

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I must say, the stations do all look amazing. I can't wait until they open (& I can go and visit them without thinking about Covid!)

I have to keep laughing to myself that you can see the progress of these stations in 2021 and wonder how anyone could have the balls to pretend everything was fine until a few months before the supposed opening date!
 

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I really don't think it's a landmark one part of the Crossrail management structure handing over to another part. Of course, the PR team haven't had a lot to do since 2018 ...
It doesn't really matter how big a handover (if any) takes place, it's still a landmark in the sense of a recognisable point from which a position can be judged. I agree with you it's not the most significant milestone along the way, but progress is progress.
 

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I have to keep laughing to myself that you can see the progress of these stations in 2021 and wonder how anyone could have the balls to pretend everything was fine until a few months before the supposed opening date!
The Western branch stations were worse . Hayes and Ealing Broadway were holes.in the ground on the original crossrail launch date and were supposed to have opened in December 2017
 

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