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Tottenham Court Road Dean Street has one for Metro/ES.I notice the Elizabeth line station at Paddington has no Metro newspaper stands. Is this true of other stations with standalone EL entrances?
Tottenham Court Road Dean Street has one for Metro/ES.I notice the Elizabeth line station at Paddington has no Metro newspaper stands. Is this true of other stations with standalone EL entrances?
I travelled from Canary Wharf to St. Pancras, changing at Farringdon without using a validator, and had no bother.The situation at Farringdon is farcical given that there have been standalone validators between Thameslink and the Underground platforms for years. Why someone thought there wasn't a need for validators between Thameslink and the Elizabeth Line is baffling.
The problem is only to do with transferring from one ticket type to another at Farringdon. (eg using a paper ticket to London Thameslink, then changing to PAYG). It is very unlikely to be relevant to your journey.I travelled from Canary Wharf to St. Pancras, changing at Farringdon without using a validator, and had no bother.
Maybe they are trying to improve the urban realmI notice the Elizabeth line station at Paddington has no Metro newspaper stands. Is this true of other stations with standalone EL entrances?
TCR is an LU station. Does anyone recall which stations are LU and which are MTR?Tottenham Court Road Dean Street has one for Metro/ES.
There is no need to touch in or out as your journey starts and finishes on PAYG.I travelled from Canary Wharf to St. Pancras, changing at Farringdon without using a validator, and had no bother.
London Underground this means that Bond Street, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and WhitechapelTCR is an LU station. Does anyone recall which stations are LU and which are MTR?
I imagine all these stations will have Metro due to a contractual agreement between London Underground and Metro then.London Underground this means that Bond Street, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street and Whitechapel
Ironically, that was the date I had reserved to ride it.Is there any indication of when the next phase opens? They are saying Autumn but is that 1st September or 31st November!
EDIT: So I see the central section is due to be closed on Saturday 29th October. So I guess it won't be until after this
The Connect section about tech is reasonable on a FridayI've never found anything worth reading in Metro so I don't pick-up a copy.
Personally, I think the construction thread should be kept open, as the project is not really finished until the Crossrail network is linked up for the public.Since we are coming up to four weeks since the Elizabeth line opened and the discussion is more about future developments/enhancements perhaps a more appropriately named thread should be opened and this one closed?
This is the location of the portal on Google Maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/51%C2%B031'09.9%22N+0%C2%B011'24.5%22W/@51.519426,-0.1923197,683m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x55f87bee84ca955a!7e2!8m2!3d51.5194261!4d-0.1901313I travel through paddington from West Ealing and can't really work out where the lines will merge ?
I.e where will the Elizabeth line go underground (or come out) to join the main railway line ?
The crossrail paddington terminal is on the south side of the station and the train lines from Ealing etc are on the north side of the station.
So I can't imagine the trains will emerge above ground on the south side of the lines or they would have to cross several lines of track ?
But if they come out on the north side they would have to emerge from some tunnel it seems around royal Oak but I can't see any evidence of that
There is a line that seems to go underground at platform 14 which might be it , but that would seem like the trains would almost have to double back on themselves from the crossrail paddington stop to get onto that line ?
Cool thanks.This is the location of the portal on Google Maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/51%C2%B031'09.9%22N+0%C2%B011'24.5%22W/@51.519426,-0.1923197,683m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x55f87bee84ca955a!7e2!8m2!3d51.5194261!4d-0.1901313
This is the location of the portal on Google Maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/51%C2%B031'09.9%22N+0%C2%B011'24.5%22W/@51.519426,-0.1923197,683m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x55f87bee84ca955a!7e2!8m2!3d51.5194261!4d-0.1901313
This is the location of the portal on Google Maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/51%C2%B031'09.9%22N+0%C2%B011'24.5%22W/@51.519426,-0.1923197,683m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x55f87bee84ca955a!7e2!8m2!3d51.5194261!4d-0.190131
It would be helpful if this means the merge happens before the entrance to paddington main line (this looks like it would be ) , as often the Elizabeth trains into paddington are held at red signal around royal Oak due to no free asThis is the location of the portal on Google Maps https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/51%C2%B031'09.9%22N+0%C2%B011'24.5%22W/@51.519426,-0.1923197,683m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x55f87bee84ca955a!7e2!8m2!3d51.5194261!4d-0.1901313
The lines from the tunnel join the main line near where the Westway crosses overIt would be helpful if this means the merge happens before the entrance to paddington main line (this looks like it would be ) , as often the Elizabeth trains into paddington are held at red signal around royal Oak due to no free as
platforms at paddington mainline.
Which would kind of mess up Elizabeth line scheduling !
How is it inconsiderate? The last day of BST is completely irrelevant for track closures!Ironically, that was the date I had reserved to ride it.
It does seem inconsiderate of them to close the line on the last day of British Summer Time. The following weekend would still have been half term.
I could go in November but would need a hotel for the night. Not just extra expense but also not guaranteed that I can get the Friday off work.
On the plus side, I did not 100% want to ride it before Bond Street had opened. So maybe the delay will be for my own good. Having 4 months notice is much better than just a week or 2 for example.
In terms of operational contingency, we know that by the time full service rolls around, the full 24tph service could be reversed at Paddington via auto reverse, which should serve us well if the GWML becomes blocked.
I was wondering about the other end though - if there are issues on the GEML though. Is there enough turnback to reverse the full service using crossovers if trains destined for Shenfield cannot be sent to Shenfield? Can the full service be sent down the Abbey Wood branch and reversed at Custom House and/or Abbey Wood itself?
It would be helpful if this means the merge happens before the entrance to paddington main line (this looks like it would be ) , as often the Elizabeth trains into paddington are held at red signal around royal Oak due to no free as
platforms at paddington mainline.
Which would kind of mess up Elizabeth line scheduling !
There’s already a thread about through running, but it was started in the infrastructure and stations sub-forum.Since we are coming up to four weeks since the Elizabeth line opened and the discussion is more about future developments/enhancements perhaps a more appropriately named thread should be opened and this one closed?
Do the MTR managed stations on the western and eastern branches have Metro bins? London Overground stations have them.
It’s on Line 6 outside Paddington. You can see the turnback sidings just under the bridge and you often pull up alongside them, especially if waiting a platform into P11-14.
It’s now a depot for Tarmac. There is even rail access.Is the temporary-looking building to the east of the bus garage (with the silos) a Crossrail construction thing, or is it a staff facility for train drivers or something?
While safety is of course essential, I'm surprised how interested you come across in track closures for a rail forums member and presumably travel enthusiast.How is it inconsiderate? The last day of BST is completely irrelevant for track closures!
Isn't it 16tph on the GEML when the full service launches? 12 into the core and 4 to high level?Not really. There’s a few turn backs in the GEML, but if there was some issue you’d probably need to reduce the service a bit. It might be on the other side some services are diverted into Liverpool St High Level instead. At 12tph on GEML it’s already very tight headways.
It’s on Line 6 outside Paddington. You can see the turnback sidings just under the bridge and you often pull up alongside them, especially if waiting a platform into P11-14.
Once through running is underway, then they’ll divert off at this point, which will free up the higher platforms for GWR & HEX services to space out a bit although it’s likely some platforms won’t get much of a service. Same is true of P15-17 at Liverpool St.
I’m confused - my point was purely that BST is irrelevant to track closures!While safety is of course essential, I'm surprised how interested you come across in track closures for a rail forums member and presumably travel enthusiast.