CRRC Releases new regional/commuter high-speed train

[Stephen Lee]

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so i was wondering what TOCs may use this type of EMU.......

 

[JonathanH]

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so i was wondering what TOCs may use this type of EMU.......

That depends on how keen we are to outsource rolling stock manufacturing to China along with everything else they make for us.

 

[Gag Halfrunt]

This is a low floor design for continental Europe. CRRC have already built EMUs for Czech operator Leo Express as well as a handful of low floor EMUs and DMUs for Makedonski Železnici in North Macedonia.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Then there are these CRRC EMUs/DMUs for Chile
Biotren fleet unveiled | News | Railway Gazette International

But currently we seem to be falling out with anybody capable of making trains.
All part of "taking back control", of course.

As part of the government’s Chile on Rails investment strategy, EFE awarded contracts in 2018 and 2019 for CRRC Qingdao Sifang to supply 12 three-car electric multiple-units and three two-car diesel multiple-units.
The first sets were shipped from China in December. Total cost of the package is put at US$87m including the construction of a maintenance depot in Hualqui.

 

[JonathanH]

Then there are these CRRC EMUs/DMUs for Chile
Biotren fleet unveiled | News | Railway Gazette International

But currently we seem to be falling out with anybody capable of making trains.
All part of "taking back control", of course.

Are we? We have an agreement with Japan which has explicit provisions for Hitachi to be involved in our rolling stock market. Hitachi appear to have made some rolling stock in the Newton Aycliffe factory for the Milan metro. The arguments with the EU don't seem to extend to Siemens, Alstom and CAF manufacturing trains in the UK or constructing them on mainland Europe and supplying them to us. How many other countries do we need to be on good terms with regarding rolling stock?

Chile appear to have signed up to China's Belt and Road initiative. This seems to have mixed fortunes for the countries which have become involved in that.

The premise of the OP in this thread appears to simply be that we should have more widespread sourcing of rolling stock from around the world simply for more variety. Is that really what we want?

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

We'll have to see what complications there are with the next contract with an EU manufacturer (maybe the HS2 rolling stock?).
Rules of origin, and what counts as "British" have clearly changed with EU exit.
The debate about Japanese batteries in British-built cars exported to the EU will have its rail equivalent.
Meanwhile Talgo is reported to be in legal dispute with HS2 Ltd, reason unknown but likely to do with procurement of HS2 rolling stock.

The strained atmosphere with China is political.
It's one more reason why UK rolling stock purchases from there are unlikely, however impressive the product.

 

[squizzler]

The strained atmosphere with China is political.

As far as I am concerned, this country should have nothing to do with their trains whilst their current regime is in power and inflicting well documented human rights abuses. I am not a fan of the more hawkish parts of the tory party, but I do consider their stance on china to be bang on.