Current Locos and Stock in Preservation?

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  1. E_Reeves

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    Although current locos such as the 66, 67 etc. seem 'fairly' modern, can you imagine a time where you will see less of these locos on the mainline and a fair few in preservation?
    Fair enough, the class 66s and other locos have a long life ahead of them, but there will eventually be a loco that will gradually start to replace locos such as the 66.

    Also, are there any fairly new(er) locos (20 years and younger) currently in preservation?

    Please share your thoughts and opinions.
     
  2. xotGD

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    Isn't the prototype Class 70 preserved?

    70000
     
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    Do you mean the Class 70 (diesel) demonstrator that was in Turkey? It's now 70801 and in traffic with Colas Rail.

    If you mean the Class 70 (electric), it's a damn sight older than 20! :lol:
     
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    The Class 89 is preserved, that isn't *that* old in preserved terms. About 30 years old?
     
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    I think that the youngest item of UK mainline rolling stock in preservation is probably the power car from Eurostar set 3308 at the NRM. Other than that, I think that the youngest for electric locomotives would indeed be the class 89 (built 1986), for diesel locos class 58016 (1984), and for DMUs the handful of class 141s (1984) that are in preservation.

    I think it's inevitable that members of class 66 will end up in preservation: They're ubiquitous enough that the odds are good that some enthusiasts must have some affection for them.
     
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    There's also the unique 140, which is sort-of preserved in Scotland- about 16 years ago it was just visible from the entrance to the Glenfiddich Distillery in Ballater (if I've remembered the name of the village correctly).
     
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    As 'heritage' traction becomes newer and newer it seems to me that a whole new approach to preservation will be needed.

    Modern trains are full of bespoke computer systems and electronics which can't be repaired or replaced in the same was as a a piston ring, or a relay. So in the future instead of being mostly built around expertise in engines or breaking systems, the most important asset of preservation groups will be electronics experts with either past professional experience with the traction or access to all the internal documentation from the manufacturer.
    Eventually, as parts are discontinued, some of these systems may have to be replaced with new designs using up-to-date components.

    The progress being made by the ACLG on the Class 89 and the 125 Group at least shows that these hurdles can be climbed.
     
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    I was flippantly referring to 70000 'Britannia'! :lol:
     
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    Dufftown. It's kept at the Keith and Dufftown Railway. Not in service.

    It's an odd place for it to have ended up. I don't think the 140 has any Scottish connections.
     
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    I remember the 140 doing a test run on the West Highland Line in the early 1980s when I lived in Fort William.
     
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    The KV10 cards in the 50s is a good example of this. Using modern components to "emulate" the original 1960s electronics as the original cards have become obsolete. The modern carda are much smaller and simpler too.
     
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    GBRF have already said that once they've finished with/replaced the last 66 to be delivered and named "Evening Star" painted in the old B.R. green complete with orange and black lining just like it's steam namesake 92220 Evening Star the last B.R. built class 9f, will be presented to the National Railway Museum.
     
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    First '66 in preservation?

    2050 given the current state of UK rail!

    (And that is not a joke)
     
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    Metrolink T-68 no. 1007 is now in preservation, dating from 1992.
     
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    It's hard to think what is most likely to join the world of preservation next, other than Class 142 units, as it seems increasingly unlikely the 144 (and of course HST) fleets have come to the end of their working lives.
     
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    "I remember the 140 doing a test run on the West Highland Line in the early 1980s when I lived in Fort William".

    Yes, it was in Oban circa 1979 (ish). I had an original publicity handout, might still have it somewhere.

    The 140 travelled the length and breadth of the BR network - it was their great hope for the future - and eventually formed the test bed for the 156's. At that time we didn't realise that BR wanted to DMU-ise the entire railway in Scotland!

    I went to see the 140 at Dufftown about ten years ago, it was almost derelict and looked very dated! Apparently it's been refurbished and shedded now - but I still don't like it!
     
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    The Class 58 dates from 1982. They were only 20 years old when withdrawn in 2002. Just think, in five years they'll have been withdrawn as long as they were in service.

    There's also the Class 457 carriage preserved at the Electric Railway Museum in Coventry. Currently the only Mark 3 EMU vehicle preserved I believe, and younger than the PEP (313/4/5 507/8) designs that will hopefully have a few examples preserved when they start dying off on-masse in the next couple of years.

    What makes you say that about the 144s? My understanding is that the 2-car examples will all be withdrawn by 2018 with the 3-car ones following by late 2019.

    Given the Pacer Preservation Society is a thing, I imagine examples of all three pacer classes (probably a couple of each) will turn up in preservation. Not counting the 141s already kicking about.

    It does make one wonder if we're going to run out of railway for all this stock.
     
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    Withdrawn from Northern yes.

    Given that the ROSCO apparently wanted the 144s back before the 142s, and given the lack of solutions for ATWs 142s i would not bet against the 144s entering service with ATW.
     
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    Slightly different but this is an operational preserved Ballast Regulator on the NYMR built in Germany 1984.
     

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    That's an interesting looking machine. Would you call it preserved though? Or is it doing the job it was designed for on a preserved railway?
    Sometimes the lines are a bit blurry.
     
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    Downpatrick have a 450-class dating from 1985, although it's a question of whether it is from then, being built on surplus Mark 1 chassis and electrical equipment from the 1950's!

    Also there's 1987-build Mark 3's in preservation. Trying to think whether any narrow gauge stuff is later
     
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    Wasn't sure whether to mention those mark 3 sleepers various railways use for stores/accommodation or not. I wouldn't quite class them as preserved.

    There's also the Mark 3 buffet at Midsomer Norton, if that's still there.
     
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