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Harbornite

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This is one of my areas of interest! I'll post some links later.
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Railfan Europe features stock lists for the majority of railway companies in Europe.
www.railfaneurope.net/list_frameset.html


Railcolor.net and mainlinediesels.net are news sites for Europe and North America, they include stock lists for the likes of Siemens and Bombardier's products.

www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1000001&lang=1

mainlinediesels.net/index.php?nav=1000001&lang=en#.U2RAJ_ldUlK

If you like Deutsche Reichsbahn locomotives, then I recommend this site: www.dr-bahn.de
It features stock lists for Class 243s, 234s etc


These two sites have info on the DB V200s:

v200.richardkrol.nl

www.v200-001.de/v200.html


V160.De has info and stock lists for the DB 218 variants. www.v160.de


Here's the site about the DR class 243s, aka DB Class 143 www.br143.de
 
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Thank you! I have just got back from Germany and managed to grab a few quick snaps at Cologne and Rudesheim - need to caption my pics...

Coincidentally I was thinking about German railways today, I had considered posting a thread about photographic spots in Berlin. I visited that city back in October and saw a few locos but I'd defiantly go back, I've become a fan of the German scene.

Can you remember what the locos looked like without looking at your pics?
 

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Two were ICE trains (ICE-1 and 3 I think), one was an oldish red loco pushing a rake of double decker carriages, another was a modern suburban train that looked a bit like a tram (though it was at Koln Hbf), another shot was of white carriages with red stripe at waist level pulled by a red loco

Then I have a double headed pair of oldish looking diesel engines with domed roofs.

At Rudesheim, I snapped what looked like an old electric loco in dark green (number E40-128) with cross-pantograph (rather like the LNER Class 76)
 
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Some good catches there. Sounds like you saw a pair of class 218s (did they have prominent exhaust pipes), the oldish loco on the regio train could well be a class 112 or 143. The Fernverkehr train (intercity) was probably being hauled by a class 101 or 120, although 182s are occasionally used.
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Here's a class 112


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If the oldish red loco was at Köln Hbf then it would have been either a 111:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/max_rail_photos_ii/16616553115/in/dateposted-public/

Or a 143: https://www.flickr.com/photos/max_rail_photos_ii/16615924682/in/dateposted-public/

Indeed the IC train was probably being hauled by a 101, but 120s are definitely more common than just occasional.

Yeah I should have worded that better, I meant that 182s are occasional.
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Here's a better site for info about the DR V300s

v300-online.com
 

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If the oldish red loco was at Köln Hbf then it would have been either a 111:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/max_rail_photos_ii/16616553115/in/dateposted-public/

Or a 143: https://www.flickr.com/photos/max_rail_photos_ii/16615924682/in/dateposted-public/

Indeed the IC train was probably being hauled by a 101, but 120s are definitely more common than just occasional.

Thank you, I will have to look closely at my photos as could be either or both. Both instantly recognisable though
 

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Here are some of the (few) pics I managed to get that I'm having difficulty in identifying although I think (from what has been posted here) that the class number is painted on the front of some of these
 

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Some good shots there. From left to right, you've got a Bombardier Traxx F140 series 486 (www.railcolor.net/index.php?nav=1405131&lang=1#.V5lcU7xLOK0) of BLS cargo, a db regio class 143 (built by the deutsche reichsbahn as a class 243), a pair of db class 218s (can't remember who built these), and I'm not sure about the shunter or the green loco. The penultimate picture could also have a class 146 in it, but I'd need to see a closer view of the locomotive.


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When I was in Berlin, I saw a handful of Siemens ES64U2s, classified as Class 182 under the DB system.

This one is operated by DB Regio and used on regional services in Brandenburg

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Whereas this one belongs to MRCE dispolok, a leasing company. It is being hired by DB Regio for longer distance regio services.

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At Schonefeld I saw a privately owned V200 and cDB class 120s on intercity trains, but sadly I didn't get any pics.
 
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Looks like a pair of historic liveried locos in the last one.
An E40 is a 14x series, freight sister to the E10/11× express passenger (which might be the second loco from the livery).
DB has a museum depot at Koblenz, and you're by the Rhine....
 

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Thanks very much guys - very helpful. This was a family holiday on the Rhine so not much time/opportunity to photograph railways.... I did get a couple of shots of ICE trains at Cologne but didn't include these as they are easily identifiable (especially as they say ICE on the sides...)
 

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I used to find it hard to distinguish between the ICE 1 and ICE 2 units. The most noticeable aesthetic difference is that the lights on the ICE 2 are higher up.
 

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I used to find it hard to distinguish between the ICE 1 and ICE 2 units. The most noticeable aesthetic difference is that the lights on the ICE 2 are higher up.

For me, one ICE train had a squarer front (rather like the BR APT but with 2 front windows) and the other ICE train had a much more curved sleek front end (presume this is the ICE-3?)

We travelled back from Cologne to Bruxelles Midi on the ICE - from memory, it was the later version. On the way from Bruxelles to Cologne, we got a Thalys TGV look-a-like train
 
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For me, one ICE train had a squarer front (rather like the BR APT but with 2 front windows) and the other ICE train had a much more curved sleek front end (presume this is the ICE-3?)

First is either an ICE-1 or 2, second is probably one of the versions of the ICE-3 but could also be an ICE-T.
Brussels to Cologne would be an ICE-3M.
 
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ICE-1 (also known as class 401)

ICE_1_in_Augsburg-Hochzoll.jpg


versus ICE-2 (class 402)...

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There are a number of ICE-3 variants, including the ICE-T (mentioned earlier) which can tilt, and there's a diesel titlting variant as well. The most numerous ICE-3 is the class 403, which according to railfaneurope, were ordered for Rhein-Main NBS, and used on Köln/Dortmund-München/Basel & Hamburg-Köln-München.

640px-ICE_3_Fahlenbach.jpg


The ICE-3 family is part of the Velaro product range, which also includes the Eurostar class 374.
 

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There is also the ICE-3 Velaro-D, which is very similar to the Eurostar e320:

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Not my photo.
 

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Here are some of the (few) pics I managed to get that I'm having difficulty in identifying although I think (from what has been posted here) that the class number is painted on the front of some of these

The shunter# looks like a 211/212*. Quite rare, and the green loco is a 140 with pre 1968 lettering. (E40)

# I say shunter but the class was used more on short distance passenger and freight work
*Could be a 290, but the ends are round and a 290 has a short hood and a long hood, 211/212's have rounded and equal size hoods.


ICE 1's and ICE 2's

ICE 1's. Run as a rake with two power cars. Also look out for the humped back Restaurant car.
ICE 2's. Run as a power car and a driving trailer. Standard Restaurant car, but look at the front, the nose on a ICE 2 has a section that opens to access the couplings when running as 2 units. (trains often split)


SJ. Someone who knows her Avmz 107 and her Bpmz's
 
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The shunter# looks like a 211/212*. Quite rare, and the green loco is a 140 with pre 1968 lettering. (E40)

# I say shunter but the class was used more on short distance passenger and freight work
*Could be a 290, but the ends are round and a 290 has a short hood and a long hood, 211/212's have rounded and equal size hoods.

Were they Eat German (ex Deutsche Reichsbahn)?
 

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I used to find it hard to distinguish between the ICE 1 and ICE 2 units. The most noticeable aesthetic difference is that the lights on the ICE 2 are higher up.
ICE 1 = Longer train (2+12 cars) with a power car at both ends and a distinctive raised roof on the buffet car.

ICE 2 = Shorter (1+7 cars but often run in pairs) with a power car at one end and a driving trailer (with passenger accommodation) at the other.

If you saw it at Cologne it was very likely an ICE 2 as ICE 1 sets are pretty uncommon there.
 
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