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[sarahj]

Oh I see, I was thinking of these

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-Baureihe_V_100.

Yeah, i could see your confusion. One thing to note is the one in the picture is in original colour that they were delivered in. The DR colour was slightly different. Many of the DR ones running today are often found on maintenance trains and painted in yellow.

You also have to understand when the DB and DR started to build locos under the E and V codes they kept gaps for each others locos.
eg DB E40, DR E41. When they went computer in 68/69 this ended, so you had two X11 class's in each country, though the DB used 1 for electrics and 2 for diesels and the DR the other way round. When they merged the DB system took over and numbers were changed.

DR 112 became 204
DR 250 became 155
DB 112 became 113/115

 

[Harbornite]

Yeah, i could see your confusion. One thing to note is the one in the picture is in original colour that they were delivered in. The DR colour was slightly different. Many of the DR ones running today are often found on maintenance trains and painted in yellow.

You also have to understand when the DB and DR started to build locos under the E and V codes they kept gaps for each others locos.
eg DB E40, DR E41. When they went computer in 68/69 this ended, so you had two X11 class's in each country,

I never knew about this, thanks!

though the DB used 1 for electrics and 2 for diesels and the DR the other way round. When they merged the DB system took over and numbers were changed.

DR 112 became 204
DR 250 became 155
DB 112 became 113/115

I was aware of this, I believe the abolition of the DR numbering scheme began when DB and DR merged in 1994. The 243 simply became 143 while 132 became 232. East German locos have actually done quite well in hindsight, there's still plenty left.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Nice one Sarahj - spot on

Here's the original two as higher res and my pics of ICE-2 and ICE-3.

Is the old E40 green loco available as a model?

 

[sarahj]

Nice one Sarahj - spot on

Here's the original two as higher res and my pics of ICE-2 and ICE-3.

Is the old E40 green loco available as a model?

Yes, Roco and Piko do versions.

I'm now hooked on the loco behind that E40. It looks a like a E50/150 in blue/beige, but, but... Someone has painted a E10/112/113 in old Rhiengold colours, so it could be that.mmmmmmm:-?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Thank you.

With respect to the E40 loco, obviously I wasn't expecting it (along with the other vintage engines) and therefore wasn't able to cross the line in time to get a better shot of all of them. You may recognise the location Sarahj - Rudesheim

 

[sarahj]

I was there just 2 weeks ago. My rare view that visit was a crane train. With a 152 as traction. A great place to sit in a cafe/restaurant and train watch.

 

[Harbornite]

I was there just 2 weeks ago. My rare view that visit was a crane train. With a 152 as traction. A great place to sit in a cafe/restaurant and train watch.

The Siemens 152s look almost identical to the Bombardier 146s. How do you then apart if you can't see the number?

 

[87015]

I'm now hooked on the loco behind that E40. It looks a like a E50/150 in blue/beige, but, but... Someone has painted a E10/112/113 in old Rhiengold colours, so it could be that.mmmmmmm:-?

It's a 111 I'm sure looking at the grills.

Edit: that's the 140 that lives at Koblenz, they have a cream 111 that works as well so would add up.

 

[sarahj]

It's a 111 I'm sure looking at the grills.

I thought that, but it's a bit too curved, and missing the middle window into the engine bay. There is something odd about the roof electrical boxes as well.

The 152 has the signs of the original Eurosprinter, so quite easy'ish to spot, if you know what your looking for.

 

[Gordon]

You also have to understand when the DB and DR started to build locos under the E and V codes they kept gaps for each others locos.
eg DB E40, DR E41.

There was a DB E41, but no DR E41, but there was a DR E42

Not sure if these gaps were deliberate, and its not 100% true, especially for Diesel (V) locos as there were V60s and V100s on both DB and DR (hence the confusion about the DB V100 in your picture) talking of which...

...and referring back to earlier posts - it is most definitely a DB V100 in your picture, not a DB V90 nor any DR version. IMHO It's easy to tell the difference between DB and DR V100s. The latter are much more angular with a flat cab roof and a distinct pitched top to the two 'noses'

Incidentally the DB V100 were built from 1958, the V90s from 1964 (essentially following on from the V100s) and the DR V100s from circa 1966

Your picture is 212 325-5 now owned by EfW-Verkehrsgesellschaft mbH, Frechen (a suburb of Köln). As its a 212 it is actually a V100.2 originally. Built by MaK wks nmbr 1000372/1966

DB (and DR) V100s were not shunting locos but mixed traffic. V100s hauled secondary passenger and branch passenger trains and lighter freights. V90s were (are) mainly heavy shunters but also trip freight locos.

The green E40 is a DB museum loco from nearby Koblenz:

http://museale-einheitsloks.jimdo.com/baureihe-140/e40-128-140-128-0/

And I agree I think the second lok is 140 423 which is also based at the Koblenz museum and is in Turkis/beige
http://museale-einheitsloks.jimdo.com/baureihe-140/140-423-5/





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[Islineclear3_1]

Thanks guys for all your help. Looks like I got lucky with a couple of gems - especially the E40 and the 212. Appears I also snapped a diesel-hydraulic V200 from the info supplied here but the loco is far away thus I couldn't get close.

 

[Harbornite]

Thanks guys for all your help. Looks like I got lucky with a couple of gems - especially the E40 and the 212. Appears I also snapped a diesel-hydraulic V200 from the info supplied here but the loco is far away thus I couldn't get close.

Interesting, what livery was it in, was it dark red and Grey or was it orange?