sbatty
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Hi everybody can anybody give me a definitive list off scrapped mk4 coaches as much info would be grateful date and where
Thanks
Simon
Thanks
Simon
I don't have a list of vehicle numbers, but as of last week a total of 104 have been scrapped (that is excluding those lost in accidents).Hi everybody can anybody give me a definitive list off scrapped mk4 coaches as much info would be grateful date and where
Thanks
Simon
Is that excluding DVTs? I have 111, but 7 DVTs included in the list.I don't have a list of vehicle numbers, but as of last week a total of 104 have been scrapped (that is excluding those lost in accidents).
It’s not up-to-date though. It doesn’t reflect the TfW position accurately, as a starting point.There's a fleet list on the 225 Group website (www.225group.org) that you might find useful. It was updated this month!
The fact they own 45 Mark 4s.It says it was updated on 11th May. Which TfW changes are missing?
It says it was updated on 11th May. Which TfW changes are missing?
The fact they own 45 Mark 4s.
On the topic of accuracy, which is something you seem very keen on, TfW do not 'own' any Mark 4 vehicles; they are all leased from Eversholt Rail.It’s not up-to-date though. It doesn’t reflect the TfW position accurately, as a starting point.
With all due respect, you’re wrong. 45 vehicles have been sold by Eversholt to TfW Rail - they are shown as such on the national vehicle register. It’s also reported in the current Rail Express. Suggest you check your sources!On the topic of accuracy, which is something you seem very keen on, TfW do not 'own' any Mark 4 vehicles; they are all leased from Eversholt Rail.
You’re thinking of Rail.Rail Express, you mean the rail industry’s equivalent to The Sun?
Secondary sources, such as the rail press, are not “reliable”. Media 101: you wait until organisations (primary sources) confirm things themselves before you put them into other secondary sources. If you are also working with organisations then you respect their confidences before you arbitrarily place things into the public domain.With all due respect, you’re wrong. 45 vehicles have been sold by Eversholt to TfW Rail - they are shown as such on the national vehicle register. It’s also reported in the current Rail Express. Suggest you check your sources!
I’ve already told you the primary source.Secondary sources, such as the rail press, are not “reliable”. Media 101: you wait until organisations (primary sources) confirm things themselves before you put them into other secondary sources. If you are also working with organisations then you respect their confidences before you arbitrarily place things into the public domain.
As I said, if you have a public, primary source I’m more than happy to pass it along - but clearly this is not the case. For the record, there’s numerous other magazines - published later than Rail Express - that contradict the printed information.
Key word is “public”. Good to see the point going straight over your head.I’ve already told you the primary source.
I’ll await your apology when your sources catch up.
Think you need to learn some manners and PR skills as the public face of your group...Key word is “public”. Good to see the point going straight over your head.
I presume it must be, I did see 111 somewhere else but I couldn't find that figure again so went with the 104 but the addition of DVTs would explain the discrepancy.Is that excluding DVTs? I have 111, but 7 DVTs included in the list.
great site thanks and just what i needThe latest version on our website (https://225group.org/fleet/) accurately reflects the state of play at the start of May, with information that is confirmed via and published in agreement with our authoritative TOC sources. With regards to the original enquiry, which pertains to scrapped Mark IV rolling stock, it is correct.
An updated fleet list will generally be published during the second week of each month, unless the are significant changes that require a more frequent alteration. By all means, if you have confirmed information we welcome this via email, [email protected].
On the topic of accuracy, which is something you seem very keen on, TfW do not 'own' any Mark 4 vehicles; they are all leased from Eversholt Rail.
This is a really useful list - many thanks.The latest version on our website (https://225group.org/fleet/) accurately reflects the state of play at the start of May, with information that is confirmed via and published in agreement with our authoritative TOC sources. With regards to the original enquiry, which pertains to scrapped Mark IV rolling stock, it is correct.