Derailment Cardiff Central - Canton

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by andypops, 27 Apr 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. andypops

    andypops Member

    Messages:
    142
    Joined:
    31 Mar 2011
    Hi,

    There's been a derailment this morning between Cardiff Canton and Central, looks like its only affecting valley lines. Looks like a 142+143 from the end of P6/7. The 142 looks like it's some way from the line.

    Anyone got any info on units, working or anything site-specific - are there any traps or anything by there?

    Thanks
     
  2. PHILIPE

    PHILIPE Established Member

    Messages:
    7,164
    Joined:
    14 Nov 2011
    Location:
    Caerphilly
    5T02 06+59 Canton to Cardiff Central to form 2T02 07 06 Cardiff Cen to Treherbert. Details of alterations can be found on ATW Journey Check.
    ATW say operating incident but as you say, in full view for anybody to see that it was a derailment.
     
    Last edited: 27 Apr 2015
  3. bolli

    bolli Member

    Messages:
    193
    Joined:
    26 Sep 2011
  4. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Established Member

    Messages:
    1,270
    Joined:
    27 Aug 2010
    Location:
    West Midlands
    To assist those who have problems accessing links ...

     
    Last edited: 27 Apr 2015
  5. DanTrainMan185

    DanTrainMan185 Established Member

    Messages:
    4,962
    Joined:
    25 Jul 2011
    Location:
    Cardiff/Bristol
    Marvellous, appears to be the City Line affected. That's my line! :(
     
  6. Hyphen

    Hyphen Member

    Messages:
    492
    Joined:
    17 Oct 2011
    Location:
    Swansea (previously Nottingham/Sheffield)
    Information from an ATW driver is that the train passed a signal at danger leaving Canton - presumably therefore the points weren't set correctly.

    I have nothing more than that!
     
  7. talltim

    talltim Established Member

    Messages:
    1,772
    Joined:
    17 Jan 2010
  8. EbbwJunction1

    EbbwJunction1 Member

    Messages:
    697
    Joined:
    25 Mar 2010
    The strange thing about this is that whilst it seems that the City Line was the (main / only ?) part affected, the main line seemed to have problems as well.

    When I arrived from Newport at about 7.15am, there were announcements saying that "the Swansea train was delayed and more information would follow". Now, I don't know whether they meant the trains to Swansea, or from Swansea, but if the derailment was between Central and Ninian Park, how would this have affected the main line?

    The verbal announcements on the station were saying "an operational Incident" but the screens were saying "a derailment". I don't understand why they have to use jargon instead of using the proper words!
     
  9. Crossover

    Crossover Established Member

    Messages:
    6,841
    Joined:
    4 Jun 2009
    Location:
    Yorkshire
    At a guess, it could be blocking units getting in/out of Canton?
     
  10. Pacerpilot

    Pacerpilot Member

    Messages:
    331
    Joined:
    7 Jun 2010
    That is feasible. The catch points are set when the route is called before C639 clears. It would definitely affect units leaving canton. You can leave the yard via the East curve ground frame but that requires a shunt out to the east curve sidings if the units are in the shed or 12 - 20 roads
     
    Last edited: 27 Apr 2015
  11. theking

    theking Member

    Messages:
    179
    Joined:
    30 Sep 2011
    Not specific to this but if what is reported has happened is this most likely a sackable offence?
     
  12. ReeceEmmitt

    ReeceEmmitt Member

    Messages:
    33
    Joined:
    5 Oct 2014
    I would guess that one of the two reasons below, or a combination of, were the reason re operational incident/derailing

    1. Staff were repeating what they'd been told
    2. Decisions were taken (at a personal level and/or at a mid management level) to say operational incident because derailment sounds nasty.
     
  13. PHILIPE

    PHILIPE Established Member

    Messages:
    7,164
    Joined:
    14 Nov 2011
    Location:
    Caerphilly
    In actual fact, the derailment was the result of the operating incident, so it seems if info is correct but I prefer not to prejudge. It would appear that "operational incident" is the usual term (or jargon) used when what appears (from the posts) has happened.
     
  14. HLE

    HLE Member

    Messages:
    701
    Joined:
    27 Dec 2013
    All depends on the severity of the incident.....usually anyway.

    Don't think any driver would want to be involved in one !
     
  15. carriageline

    carriageline Established Member

    Messages:
    1,698
    Joined:
    11 Jan 2012

    More important is the circumstances surrounding it IMO.
     
  16. theking

    theking Member

    Messages:
    179
    Joined:
    30 Sep 2011
    Thanks for that lads.
     
  17. DarloRich

    DarloRich Veteran Member

    Messages:
    15,736
    Joined:
    12 Oct 2010
    Location:
    Work - Fenny Stratford(MK) Home - Darlington
    I have come across as picture here: https://flic.kr/p/siJUgL

    (BB code is disabled so i cant provide any other form of link )
     
  18. EbbwJunction1

    EbbwJunction1 Member

    Messages:
    697
    Joined:
    25 Mar 2010
    Thank you for your advice regarding this.
     
  19. dysonsphere

    dysonsphere Member

    Messages:
    518
    Joined:
    22 Jan 2013
    There seems to be no catch points in that pic"I stand to be corrected" maybe just a track fault
     
  20. glenbogle

    glenbogle Member

    Messages:
    101
    Joined:
    11 Aug 2011
    I went passed it yesterday and took 3 pics but they're not any better than the ones posted.
    Was fixed about 5.30 pm.
     
  21. mcmad

    mcmad Member

    Messages:
    162
    Joined:
    11 Mar 2015
    Definitely a set of trap points under the derailed end of the unit if you zoom in on the flikr picture above.
     
  22. dysonsphere

    dysonsphere Member

    Messages:
    518
    Joined:
    22 Jan 2013
    Opps seen it now thx and sorry
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page