Derelict driving parcels trailers @ Hellifield

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Thete is a siding at hellifield of a load of emu driving vehicles that were converted to driving parcels vans painted in royal mail red.
Who to they belong to and why are they there?
Well vandalised and graffiti covered.
 
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Funny you should post this. I was up there a couple of days ago and wondered if WCRC were ever actually going to do anything with them. They really are tatty and even have offensive graffiti on the side facing passenger trains. (I always struggle to understand the allure of the act of graffiti, but especially spraying a train at Hellifield - surely quite a lot of effort involved for what appears to be very little publicity for the vandal, especially as some of it isn’t even apparently a “tag”.)

I’m no expert on the limitations of the infrastructure at that location, but perhaps these could be moved into the adjacent sheds?
 

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Funny you should post this. I was up there a couple of days ago and wondered if WCRC were ever actually going to do anything with them. They really are tatty and even have offensive graffiti on the side facing passenger trains. (I always struggle to understand the allure of the act of graffiti, but especially spraying a train at Hellifield - surely quite a lot of effort involved for what appears to be very little publicity for the vandal, especially as some of it isn’t even apparently a “tag”.)

I’m no expert on the limitations of the infrastructure at that location, but perhaps these could be moved into the adjacent sheds?
If you go out of Hellifield towards Long Preston, past the layby with the snack van there is a turning to the right that is a nice new road that goes nowhere. You can get quite close to the NW end of the rake. Big security fence though.

Then you go to the Hazy Days caff in Hellifield for a fry up or tea and cake. Or the one on the train station.
 

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West Coast Railways of Carnforth. Spares
These are useful spares for wheelsets and bogies, which is why WCRC have them.
Bo'ness also bought a small fleet of them for bogies and wheelsets to keep the railtour stock running as good wheelsets for Mk1 coaches become harder to find. The carriage bodies were scrapped (various videos on Youtube including one with the scrap company carelessly damaging a B4 bogie whilst cutting the body off)

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These are useful spares for wheelsets and bogies, which is why WCRC have them.
Bo'ness also bought a small fleet of them for bogies and wheelsets to keep the railtour stock running as good wheelsets for Mk1 coaches become harder to find. The carriage bodies were scrapped (various videos on Youtube including one with the scrap company carelessly damaging a B4 bogie whilst cutting the body off)

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shirley the wheel bearings will be no good now having been static for so long?
When the 317's were grounded for the DOO dispute when BedPan went live, maintenance staff made sure they moved a little by easing them along with crowbars.
 

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I think there was a plan in fairly recent years to build some kind of sheds at Hellifield for the trains?
there is a shed. no doors. all connected up to network rail, but there is a sleeper chained across the access track.
dont think the shed has ever seen a train.
 

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I think there was a plan in fairly recent years to build some kind of sheds at Hellifield for the trains?
WCRC got it built for stabling steam locos for use on the Settle-Carlisle route, but for some reason never used it once complete. No idea why, but I'd suspect some kind of financial disagreement somewhere between WCRC / Railtrack / the contractors
 

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Driving through Hellifield towards Kirby Lonsdale last week, I noticed a line of what looked like around 4 TPOs or GUVs in RES red & black on a siding. They looked pretty derelict but I only got a brief glance. Anyone know what they’re there for or who owns them?

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The above was posted as a new thread as I wasn't aware of this.
What spares do WCRC want with them, given that they don't use driving trailers?
 
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Driving through Hellifield towards Kirby Lonsdale last week, I noticed a line of what looked like around 4 TPOs or GUVs in RES red & black on a siding. They looked pretty derelict but I only got a brief glance. Anyone know what they’re there for or who owns them?

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The above was posted as a new thread as I wasn't aware of this.
What spares do WCRC want with them, given that they don't use driving trailers?
For wheelsets and bogies for the MK1 coaches IIRC
 

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I first signed the S&C in 2000 and they were there either then or shortly afterwards. The shed was indeed built for WCRC but I understand that it was unsafe so never progressed.
 

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Does anyone know the identity of these vehicles ? And does anyone know the identity of similar vehicles parked in sidings close to the Royal Mail depot at Willesden? Are there any other such dumps up and down the country. Many thanks. Alan.
 

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Does anyone know the identity of these vehicles ? And does anyone know the identity of similar vehicles parked in sidings close to the Royal Mail depot at Willesden? Are there any other such dumps up and down the country. Many thanks. Alan.
There's some more at Carnforth Steamtown in the south side of the yard - you can see them clearly from the WCML on the left hand side going north.
 

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WCRC got it built for stabling steam locos for use on the Settle-Carlisle route, but for some reason never used it once complete. No idea why, but I'd suspect some kind of financial disagreement somewhere between WCRC / Railtrack / the contractors
There were issues with the shed's construction (foundations IIRC) which resulted in work being stopped, and it's never resumed.
 

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Does anyone know the identity of these vehicles ? And does anyone know the identity of similar vehicles parked in sidings close to the Royal Mail depot at Willesden? Are there any other such dumps up and down the country. Many thanks. Alan.
Propelling Control Vehicles at Hellifield:
94302/303/306/323/326/333

There are also vehicles 94495/504/527/546 present.

Propelling Control Vehicles at Willesden:
94310/311/313/337/338

There are also vehicles 94153/410/427/445/450/451/492, and 95727/761 present.

Propelling Control Vehicles can also be found at Carnforth (94308/322/332), Crewe LNWR (94335/336), Millerhill (94304) and Toton (94316/317/344).
 
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