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Nathan
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speechless...
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I think i'll wait to release my statement until i find out which unit or more importantly class.
thefab444
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Ah, one of the annoying ones...
Nah, not a 442, they'll just put a 450 in replacement... could we be seeing more 450 + 444s?
I hope no one was injured? You didn't mention?
Nah, not a 442, they'll just put a 450 in replacement... could we be seeing more 450 + 444s?
I hope no one was injured? You didn't mention?
LucaZone
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Not SWT... Different incident or some crossed wires?
westcoaster
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two different incidents i think, one of our 350 had the same problem when it was being commisioned, hit a tree near stoke-on trent
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Tom
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Train in question was on 1W71 21.35 London - Weymouth, damaged at Woodford 38 crossing.
Ta RS/MVP.
Ta RS/MVP.
Different incident that happened this morning involving 508210 on 0500 Tonbridge - Gatwick, occured at Godstone.
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Glad it wasn't me. Weymouth driver. Never seen damage like that before from a tree. One of my mates hit a tree near Winchester with a pig during the big 1988 hurricane - post inside the window saved him.
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Tom
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Nasty!!
Kris
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Trying to work out if that's a plank of wood sticking out of the driver's window. Could have been fatal if it had gone through higher up.
devon_metro
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Ouch.
Unit shortages anyone
Unit shortages anyone
Dad was driving into Drax on a loaded coal train once. Saw a couple of pheasants in the four foot and he blew up but they stayed there. He was going slowly and they just stayed there so he heard 'ping ping' on the secondmans side. On the way back out he stopped and picked one of them up. Apparently it made a nice dinner... lol
Nathan
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Stephen, my statement is that this is a set back for 444s, i've had some many long journeys in the safehold of her and yes it is wishful thinking to see a 442 back.
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Tom
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Erm...look at the damage and think again.
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Tom
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Would you want to walk through that corridor connection?
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Tom
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See that big dented thing on the front of the train?
See that shattered windscreen?
See that plank of wood sticking into the windscreen?
Twit.
See that shattered windscreen?
See that plank of wood sticking into the windscreen?
Twit.
Kris
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I think part of that coupling may be 'fluffed' too!
It is on its way back to the Fatherland fur repairen - just the ein vagon though. Cameras at the ready - should make an interesting piccie.
Siemens had a 3 car (think it was 3) test unit at Northam which I believe they scrapped shortly after the depot opened. Could have used it on the Lymmy
It is on its way back to the Fatherland fur repairen - just the ein vagon though. Cameras at the ready - should make an interesting piccie.
Siemens had a 3 car (think it was 3) test unit at Northam which I believe they scrapped shortly after the depot opened. Could have used it on the Lymmy
devon_metro
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Fred you clearly don't undertand how much SWT would be sued if they put that in service.
Health and Safety springs to mind...
Health and Safety springs to mind...
ChrisCooper
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It's unlikely that it's written off, I've seen trains with a hell of a lot more damage go back into service. I suspect it will just require a new front end on it, although it depends how bad the damage is further back and how it's built. With many trains, for example the HSTs, Eurostars and 58s, the cab can be swapped over, and spair cabs are available (spair Eurostar cabs can be seen at North Pole Depot), and with a lot of other types it would just be a case of swapping the fibreglass moulding from the front. With trains that new, I'd have thought they'd have body parts in stock, or else one could be made up quite easily. The front ends on the 444s are identical to the 450s (and 350s) AFAIK. Were the damage just to the windows it's possible that they could use it with the cab inside another train, and I'm sure that sort of thing has been done before, but not with that much damage. Would anyone want to drive a car with that much damage, even if it was the back or side?
Out of interest, are the fronts on the Desiros fibreglass or are they Aluminium? The body looks dented, wheras fibreglass will crack. If it is aluminium it should be possible to knock the dents out, or even run it as it is (one the windscreens, corridor connection, lights etc are repaired).
Out of interest, are the fronts on the Desiros fibreglass or are they Aluminium? The body looks dented, wheras fibreglass will crack. If it is aluminium it should be possible to knock the dents out, or even run it as it is (one the windscreens, corridor connection, lights etc are repaired).
Its a nasty pic thank goodness noone was hurt.
As to what would be done.poosibly sent back to Germany and the cab front would be replaced. I remember that Doncastor had spare 58's cabs and I beleive there is a spare 67 cab sat in an OBA wagon parked near the fence ( by the canal that runs past) at Old Oak Common. So to be honest it would possibly be the front unit to go back to Germany to be repaired.
As to bring back a 442. Would doubt it very much....would possibly need a whole forest for that!!
Cheers
Hentis
As to what would be done.poosibly sent back to Germany and the cab front would be replaced. I remember that Doncastor had spare 58's cabs and I beleive there is a spare 67 cab sat in an OBA wagon parked near the fence ( by the canal that runs past) at Old Oak Common. So to be honest it would possibly be the front unit to go back to Germany to be repaired.
As to bring back a 442. Would doubt it very much....would possibly need a whole forest for that!!
Cheers
Hentis
thefab444
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Yer there is a spare 67 cab somewhere.
AFAIK Desiro cabs are aluminium, but feel free to correct me.
AFAIK Desiro cabs are aluminium, but feel free to correct me.
Kris
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The pigs had 'stick on' fibreglass' cabs - you can even see the join - but I think that the Disastros are a complete body side etc.
444's are slightly different to 450's at the front. The cab on a 444 comes in a bit more and your arm catches on the handrail on the left - doesn't touch it on a 450.
The corridor connection at the front is longer on a 444 - don't know why really - maybe they have a longer throw around curves due to the longer coach length.
Be nice to have an ICE 3 cab on the front.
444's are slightly different to 450's at the front. The cab on a 444 comes in a bit more and your arm catches on the handrail on the left - doesn't touch it on a 450.
The corridor connection at the front is longer on a 444 - don't know why really - maybe they have a longer throw around curves due to the longer coach length.
Be nice to have an ICE 3 cab on the front.
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