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Martym8

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How do you actually obtain one of these - is it just for NR issued annual season tickets or does it include TfL annual travelcards issued on oystercards?

I have found it quite hard work getting a replacement Annual Gold card from TfL if you have to replace/lose your Oystercard. Took me several weeks and multiple calls to get a replacement by post. So having a digital option would be a lot easier.
 

OscarH

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They are technically from a standards perspective, I don't know if anyone is issuing them yet
 

Bletchleyite

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Could this mean that we may eventually be able to get E-Travelcards?

It's more about cross-London and interavailable route e-tickets (which would be a very welcome development). There's no plan at present to provide large scale barcode reading facilities at stations that don't involve National Rail interchange.
 

trek

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Could this mean that we may eventually be able to get E-Travelcards?
One year maybe. A lot more equipment will be needed for that with (for example buses is going to take a long long time given they are still using wayfarer machines).

The rollout is starting with the stations with inter-avaliable routes or shared platforms with NR services (which previously couldn't be checked at all). Over time it'll probably be cross-London journeys as that's a limited set of stations further.
 

Wallsendmag

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To the average traveller the name Flexipass or Flexiseason doesn't really matter. Having cheaper travel that is frequent, but not frequent enough for a weekly, monthly, or annual pass is what matters.

Why isn't it available on all flows which have a season ticket available, especially considering MSPs have been claiming they that would be available as part of dropping the off peak fares pilot? Or is this an issue of not considering people who don't commute into Edinburgh or Glasgow?
Doubt it very much.
 

Edvid

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One year maybe. A lot more equipment will be needed for that with (for example buses is going to take a long long time given they are still using wayfarer machines).

The rollout is starting with the stations with inter-avaliable routes or shared platforms with NR services (which previously couldn't be checked at all). Over time it'll probably be cross-London journeys as that's a limited set of stations further.
By "year" did you mean "decade", perchance? E-Travelcards won't happen unless a) TfL want to install gateline/validator readers everywhere in Zones 1-9 (plus on the buses as you've noted) and - probably - b) the RDG agree to full integration of gateline readers at interchange/interavailable stations with TfL's Revenue Collection Contract. Unless something's changed in recent months neither scenario currently looks at all likely.

On the topic at hand - a staff briefing relating to digital GRCs was released in August. It's on the Internal Knowledgebase* but (even though it's publicly available) I can't post the URL as IKB was meant to revert to industry-only access several months ago.

[* Sidenote - is the IKB subject to FoI requests as well?]
 

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[* Sidenote - is the IKB subject to FoI requests as well?]
No, as the Rail Delivery Group (which manages National Rail) isn't subject to FOI requests. Assuming the ownership structure of RDG doesn't change (private freight companies and open access remain members) then it won't become wholly publicly owned with Labour's nationalisation plans, so will continue to not be subject to FOI.

Long shot, but you might be able to FOI a nationalised TOC to see if they have any copies themselves of what is on iKB.

On second thoughts a competent FOI handler might not release it saying its held on behalf of another organisation.
 
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