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Just wondering if anyone has 'done' a tunnel and walked through a disused one that is still accessible? In particular any big ones and what is the experience like? I have gone to look at the old Harecastle tunnel and whilst it has a gate, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to go in. But going right up to entrance gives a rather forboding feeling given the sheer size of it, ironic considering this tunnel was closed because it was too small for the overhead wires.

Apart from the obvious things like a good torch and a helmet, is it a reasonably safe, if spooky, experience?
 
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If you'd like a safe experience, there are a number of them open to the public on disused lines that have been converted to cycle tracks. There are a couple of them on the Tissington and Monsal Trails in the Peak - they have a tarmac cycle lane and lighting - or if you prefer something a bit more like the original there's one on the former Northampton to Market Harborough line which is unlit and has uneven ballast on the floor. The newest reopening is on the Penrith to Keswick - somewhere around Threlkeld I think - but that one is fully surfaced and brightly lit.

Helmet only advisable for any of these if you're cycling through.
 

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If you'd like a safe experience, there are a number of them open to the public on disused lines that have been converted to cycle tracks. There are a couple of them on the Tissington and Monsal Trails in the Peak - they have a tarmac cycle lane and lighting - or if you prefer something a bit more like the original there's one on the former Northampton to Market Harborough line which is unlit and has uneven ballast on the floor. The newest reopening is on the Penrith to Keswick - somewhere around Threlkeld I think - but that one is fully surfaced and brightly lit.

Helmet only advisable for any of these if you're cycling through.
There are two on the former Northampton-Market Harborough line, Oxendon and Kelmarsh, complete with ventilation shafts that give an eerie light..... Torch definitely desirable, but otherwise easy to navigate.
 

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I've seen a youtube video of Oxenden. Is the massive disused tunnel near Braunston and Kilsby still 'doable'?
 

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There are two on the former Northampton-Market Harborough line, Oxendon and Kelmarsh, complete with ventilation shafts that give an eerie light..... Torch definitely desirable, but otherwise easy to navigate.

I'd definitely agree you need a good torch for those ones (I forgot there were two) - my dynamo bike lights (which are little more than marker lights, more to be seen than to see by) definitely weren't up to it! :)
 

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Apart from the obvious things like a good torch and a helmet, is it a reasonably safe, if spooky, experience?
Safety will vary by tunnel. Some will still be in remarkably good condition whilst others will be only one more freeze thaw cycle away from a collapse.

It would be worth checking out the 28 Days Later forum to see if anyone else has done a tunnel you're thinking about. You can get a sense of the condition from the report and photos and whether your risk appetite is up to it or not!
 

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Safety will vary by tunnel. Some will still be in remarkably good condition whilst others will be only one more freeze thaw cycle away from a collapse.

I do often wonder what sort of expense is spent on maintenace, or even just monitoring of this sort of thing?

Obviously it's not unknown for tunnels to collapse (I forget the name of the incident that swallowed some houses and resulted in deaths) but with the amount of abandoned ones about there must be some risk of it happening.
 

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I do often wonder what sort of expense is spent on maintenace, or even just monitoring of this sort of thing?

There will presumably be some sort of monitoring of the ones that are intentionally open to the public, because the authority in charge of it being open will be liable for any injuries etc caused by a collapse. I can't imagine there will be much monitoring of tunnels which are completely abandoned unless they are known to pose a risk to buildings above.

They do of course occasionally collapse on the active railway even with monitoring.
 

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Safety will vary by tunnel. Some will still be in remarkably good condition whilst others will be only one more freeze thaw cycle away from a collapse.

It would be worth checking out the 28 Days Later forum to see if anyone else has done a tunnel you're thinking about. You can get a sense of the condition from the report and photos and whether your risk appetite is up to it or not!

Thanks!

I do often wonder what sort of expense is spent on maintenace, or even just monitoring of this sort of thing?

Obviously it's not unknown for tunnels to collapse (I forget the name of the incident that swallowed some houses and resulted in deaths) but with the amount of abandoned ones about there must be some risk of it happening.

Clifton Hall or 'Black Harry' Tunnel?

Catesby? Unfortunately not:

Interesting. That and nearby Kilsby do seem rather long for the size of the hills they go under.
 
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The Drake's Trail between Tavistock and Marsh Mills (Plymouth) on the former GWR Launceston branch has two - Grenofen (374yds) and Shaugh (307yds). They are surfaced, lit, walkable / bikeable and maintained by Sustrans. Both, however, can be a bit wet especially at this time of year and the latter is curved which can be a bit disorientating. Unfortunately Yelverton tunnel (641yds) on the same line is not open - it would cut out the steep gradients on alternative route the trail takes at this point - it is really annoying when bike riding!
 

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Clifton Hall was the incident I was thinking of.

That sort of incident must be at risk of happening again. Tunnels that have now gone 50 odd years with no maintenance could be reaching that state. 50 years may be a long time to us but to weathering processes on rock that's a good start period to having an impact on the integrity. Who knows how many voids are sitting above brick arches?
 

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Here in the South East I have walked through the following disused tunnels-
Mayfield and Argos Hill Tunnels on the Polegate- Eridge Line The former has since been infilled but the latter is still accessible
Crescent Wood Tunnel on the Crystal Palace High Level line in South London (440 yards)
King William Street- London Bridge- former London Underground Tunnel
Lywood Tunnel - Horsted Keynes- Ardingly
East Grinstead two short tunnels on East Grinstead- Forest Row line - now both infilled

One disused tunnel that collapsed was Tyler Hill Tunnel on former Canterbury- Whitstable Line which collapsed in the 1970s causing structual damage to the University of Kent above.
 

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I've done Earlsheaton tunnel both before and after it's opening as a cycle track, was possible to do it without a torch as there would be just enough light to enable navigation. Nice and try even before reopening, despite not being far underground. Gomersal tunnel's another thing entirely, that can be very wet (apparently it was notorious even when it was open) whenever there's been any rain, which given it's in Britain.... It's pitch black in the middle, and there used to be quite a bit of debris at the bottom of the air shaft, obviously dumped down it, but recent pictures show that seems to have been cleared. One item was an Air France flight case!

There's a curious brick structure at the West end which I've seen described as being to enable inspection had it been infilled as planned in the 90s, but I first walked it in the 90s and the structure was there, and was far from new, and well vandalised at the time.
 

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Many years ago, I walked through Bridgnorth tunnel, to the north of the SVR station, on the former route to Ironbridge. It's unusual in being an S-shape and yes, it was spooky!. I believe it has been sealed off at both ends and is inaccessible now, unless some brave soul has ventured into it recently
 
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I have walked through quite a few disused tunnels, but none recently; I think I'm too old for it now unless the tunnel has been provided with a nice smooth ground surface and electric lighting. From cycling videos I see that that is now the case with Devonshire and Combe Down tunnels on the S&D between Bath and Midford. When I did it they were just as abandoned by BR, rough ballast on the floor and no lighting at all. For part of Combe Down there was total darkness. I did it twice without a torch!

Many years ago (I think at least 30) I walked the old Harecastle Tunnel northbound, with a torch I think. It was very wet, indeed quite noisy due to the volume of water falling in, and quite a lot of the way was above knee depth in water. That water was bright orange in colour due to whatever is heavily dissolved in it, I think iron or some compound of it. Water of the same colour can be seen in the canal to the north end of the broadly corresponding tunnel at Kidsgrove. I don't think the old railway tunnel was too small for overhead line equipment, but it was far too wet! I think the high volume of leakage in, plus the obvious conductivity of this iron rich water, precluded electrification and required the construction of a deviation route (opened in 1964 as I recall).

I was so keen to do the walk that I trudged through although my trousers and shoes were ruined and not worn again. But I survived the journey home and the rest of the day in bright orange from above the knees down!

Obviously I would not recommend anyone to attempt to walk it now. There is probably even more water, and many more safety hazards.

John Prytherch.
 

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Many moons ago I walked the Bourne Park Tunnel on the old Folkestone to Canterbury Line 301m 329yrd of misery, dampness, damage and history (WW2 howitzer guns were stored on the line and hidden in the tunnel during heavy enemy attacks) The last train was nearly 73 years ago back in 1947
 

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Just wondering if anyone has 'done' a tunnel and walked through a disused one that is still accessible? In particular any big ones and what is the experience like? I have gone to look at the old Harecastle tunnel and whilst it has a gate, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to go in. But going right up to entrance gives a rather forboding feeling given the sheer size of it, ironic considering this tunnel was closed because it was too small for the overhead wires.

Apart from the obvious things like a good torch and a helmet, is it a reasonably safe, if spooky, experience?

The answer is it varies according to the tunnel concerned. Some are benign whilst others are quite hazardous but manageable if one takes suitable mitigations, whilst a number are extremely dangerous for one reason or another.

Collapses are rare, though a small number of tunnels have suffered collapses since closure. Ones which spring to mind are Burdale (which has two collapses and thus a sealed section in the middle), Perridge, Cheadle, Bolsover, and more recently Lydbrook. So accessing *any* tunnel carries a small but tangible element of risk. There are a small handful of tunnels which are deemed too dangerous to receive an internal inspection or maintenance regime. Whilst one may wish to work on the basis that being present beneath a collapse at the precise moment is statistically sufficiently unlikely to be a worry, quite a few tunnels have had one end blocked up so any collapse could block the single point of exit, which is another point to consider.

Other potential hazards are flooding or bad air. A handful of tunnels have suffered partial or complete flooding over the years, whilst a handful of tunnels experience issues with gases or various kinds. Another risk one might not readily think of is that most tunnel portals are situated in cuttings, sometimes deep, and there’s always the possibility of landslide, particularly during prolonged periods of wet weather. Tunnels in urban areas may contain detritus such as needles, or even undesirables lurking inside.

Entering disused railway tunnels is an extremely rewarding, interesting and at times spectacular pastime, but one needs to be clued up on the potential hazards. There's plenty of material on the internet which will assist in making informed decisions, planning being the key to an experience which is as safe as practicable.
 
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Not something I make a habit of doing, although as a child I walked through one of the tunnels on the (then abandoned) Welsh Highland Railway and also walked through a couple when with BR. One unmentioned danger is drainage holes in the trackbed, these may not be obvious or the protective grill may have rusted through.
 

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There are videos online of explores through Harecastle and Standedge Tunnels.



I'd suggest that if you are going to take a look then wear wellingtons and have several good torches with you (not just one) and tell someone where you have gone and what time you'll be expected back.
 

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There are two on the former Northampton-Market Harborough line, Oxendon and Kelmarsh, complete with ventilation shafts that give an eerie light..... Torch definitely desirable, but otherwise easy to navigate.

The council were considering fitting lights but has stopped work on it, because there's the possibility that the line may re-open in the future.

 

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Thanks!



Clifton Hall or 'Black Harry' Tunnel?



Interesting. That and nearby Kilsby do seem rather long for the size of the hills they go under.
Catesby Tunnel only ever existed so that the local landowner didn't see the trains pass through. Otherwise it would just have been a cutting.
 

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Many years ago (I think at least 30) I walked the old Harecastle Tunnel northbound, with a torch I think. It was very wet, indeed quite noisy due to the volume of water falling in, and quite a lot of the way was above knee depth in water. That water was bright orange in colour due to whatever is heavily dissolved in it, I think iron or some compound of it. Water of the same colour can be seen in the canal to the north end of the broadly corresponding tunnel at Kidsgrove. I don't think the old railway tunnel was too small for overhead line equipment, but it was far too wet! I think the high volume of leakage in, plus the obvious conductivity of this iron rich water, precluded electrification and required the construction of a deviation route (opened in 1964 as I recall).

I was so keen to do the walk that I trudged through although my trousers and shoes were ruined and not worn again. But I survived the journey home and the rest of the day in bright orange from above the knees down!

Obviously I would not recommend anyone to attempt to walk it now. There is probably even more water, and many more safety hazards.

As well as the video linked above by someone else of Harcastle Tunnel you can also find a recent trip (March 2020) that someone did with some pretty spectacular photos here. It doesn't seem to have deteriorated or gotten much wetter compared to when you did it 30 odd years ago!

There are videos online of explores through Harecastle and Standedge Tunnels.

Martin Zero's channel is very interesting for those that like urbex and disused tunnels. He's got all sorts of videos on all sorts of different abandoned places. Can be a bit of rabbit hole!
 

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The old Somerset & Dorset route south from Bath has a cycle/walking route with two tunnels. Devonshire at about 1/4 mile and Combe Down at a little over 1 mile. Both are interesting to traverse, if you don't mind the spooky-sounding chamber music piped through the centre of the latter (it probably isn't supposed to sound spooky). The other way from Bath, towards Bristol, takes you through Staple Hill, a bit over 1/4 mile. This one was double track and the riding surface is only on one side, leaving ballast the other side.
 

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Back in the 60's I drove my Anglia van through West hoathly tunnel on the E. Grinstead line just after the track was lifted. All went well until I came out at the south end whereupon after a few yards,my van's front wheels sunk into very wet ballast. It took me about half an hour of levering under the front bumper while the engine was in reverse with the throttle idling screw turned up to a very fast tickover to get back to dry land. This thwarted my aim to drive down to H K .
 
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Prospect Tunnel, on the Harrogate to Wetherby line, is accessible - it runs from close to the end of Crimple viaduct at one end (not sure whether that end is legally accessible), and comes out beside a public footpath. That end is open - I've been and looked into it, but not walked through it - lots of standing water even in the summer. I don't know how safe it is.
 

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You need to start off with railway tunnels that it's perfectly legal to enter, for example those on the Monsal Trail in the Peak District.

Swainsley Tunnel (on the old Manifold Valley Light Railway) is another I find pretty atmospheric. It's straight so it's not as though it's going to get too dark - but it's narrow-gauge so it's smaller than you'd expect. It's now part of a public road so it's still very much in use!
 

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Innocent Railway Tunnel, South Edinburgh, by Arthurs Seat, and Holyrood Park,
North Edinburgh - Rodney Street, and Granton station Tunnel, all open paths, with lighting,
Glenfarg two tunnels under the M9 Fife, no lighting.
On You Tube an interesting one to Greenock Harbour
 
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