Doctor Who - What type of train was that?

[Ambient Sheep]

During the original broadcast I believe, but considering the fragmented nature of ITV at the time and the fact that it almost certainly wasn't applied to the original masters, it's not surprising that it was absent from reruns.

Ah I see, so too long ago even for me!

Apologies for the OT-ness.

 

[UP13]

Never had it on the 1990s re-runs that I watched.

 

[CheekyBandit]

I was fine with all of that - totally believable - aliens with human teeth in their cheeks - sure - but it was when they showed a First Streetlite on the 98 at Sheffield Interchange that meant I could no longer take it seriously - I mean, everyone in the galaxy knows that it runs via High Street (southbound) and Arundel Gate (northbound)... I couldn't suspend my disbelief at such clear errors

It could have been diverted e.g. if roads on the 98's normal southbound route were closed to traffic (not uncommon) it would have likely called at the interchange. I have caught the 52/52a from the interchange a few times before.

 

[krus_aragon]

It could have been diverted e.g. if roads on the 98's normal southbound route were closed to traffic (not uncommon) it would have likely called at the interchange.

Especially if aliens have landed (even though "we don't get aliens in Sheffield").

 

[102 fan]

OK, so alien invasions - not a problem.
Humanoid with two hearts called a Time Lord regenerates from male to female - not a problem.
Teleportation into space using devices cobbled together in backstreet Sheffield workshop - not a problem.
Train might be shown with the wrong type of locomotive - BIG PROBLEM.
Always such a funny thread when people pick over the detail on such programmes. It's fiction, it has to be filmed somewhere within reasonable budget and accessibility, and, oh, did I mention, IT'S FICTION.

It has to be set in a realistic stage, even if the subject is fiction. It's like having Ford Sierra's in a 1960's era show, or the Internet in a 1970's one, or a hercules carrying troops in D-Day. Your argument dies when the subject moves from the railway.

 

[DarloRich]

It has to be set in a realistic stage, even if the subject is fiction. It's like having Ford Sierra's in a 1960's era show, or the Internet in a 1970's one, or a hercules carrying troops in D-Day. Your argument dies when the subject moves from the railway.

It was. It used a fairly modern train that gave a realistic demonstration of train travel ( to non experts) and could be accessed in a safe and managed way for a cost that the production company was willing to bear. Why cant posters here grasp these very simple point

 

[AY1975]

It was very difficult, in fact almost impossible, to work out what the loco on the train was.

I suspect that there haven't been loco-hauled stopping trains on the Hope Valley route since steam days, and AFAIK the last time air-conditioned Mark 2 coaches were regularly seen there would have been in about the mid-1980s in the days of the Harwich-Manchester boat train (which was extended to Glasgow and Edinburgh via Manchester Victoria and the WCML for a few years at around that time and named "The European" - see also my thread on 1970s and 80s Hope Valley services at https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/hope-valley-line-services-in-the-1970s-and-80s.159318/).

Many films and TV dramas have trains and other forms of transport in them that are inappropriate for the era and the area in which they are set.

 

[Mikey C]

It was. It used a fairly modern train that gave a realistic demonstration of train travel ( to non experts) and could be accessed in a safe and managed way for a cost that the production company was willing to bear. Why cant posters here grasp these very simple point

They should have used a rail replacement bus to give added realism...

 

[CheekyBandit]

Especially if aliens have landed (even though "we don't get aliens in Sheffield").

We do get aliens in Sheffield. They come from Barnsley.

 

[pieguyrob]

Didn't holyoakes have a train crash on the east lancs railway with a class 14?

 

[High Dyke]

exactly - the rule book needs to be refreshed to cover alien invasion.

Deep joy! More piffle to learn...

 

[Dougal2345]

Most tv/film drama uses artistic licence with the geography of their filming locations- it can be very distracting if you are familiar with the area.

0:20 seconds into the trailer for the new Stan & Ollie film demonstrates this:

 

[Mikey C]

0:20 seconds into the trailer for the new Stan & Ollie film demonstrates this:

That's a pretty extreme example, creating a whole new railway bridge next to Tower Bridge!

 

[ShwervinMervin]

It's a reversed shot of Horsted Keynes on the Bluebell railway with a CG mk2 coach end as the closing shot.

Thought so! Yes!!

 

[Dougal2345]

Even Dr Who can't make a train wider on the inside than on the outside:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowb...ccleston-escorted-train-police-row-class.html

He effortlessly travelled through space and time as Doctor Who.

But Christopher Eccleston appears to have had rather more trouble after swapping the Tardis for a train.

The actor was escorted off by the British Transport Police after an altercation with a member of staff as he attempted to travel from Newcastle to London.

Eccleston, 54, became embroiled in a heated row on the LNER train when he was blocked from getting to his seat in first class by a female staff member pushing a drinks trolley.

Police then escorted him from the train when it stopped at Peterborough station.

Eccleston was allowed to go on his way after speaking to officers – but an investigation remains ongoing.

A passenger who witnessed the incident last month said: ‘After pulling out of Doncaster around 11am I suddenly became aware of raised voices along the carriage, which sounded very angry.

'I looked along and saw a tall-ish well-dressed man arguing with a female employee who was pushing a food trolley along the aisle.

‘The man was trying to get past her but when he realised he couldn’t get by and would have to wait he totally lost it.

Christopher Eccleston was 'making a complete idiot of himself' as he shouted at a female member of staff when the food trolley blocked his way in the first class carriage

‘He was making a complete idiot of himself but his behaviour was totally outrageous.

‘It was ridiculous and totally uncalled for but he became really angry and irate. He just had to wait for a few minutes but instead he was really in the woman’s face.

‘It seemed to be escalating a bit and a couple of people actually got up and had to intervene by telling the man to calm down. The man was totally out of order and the woman looked really upset and pretty shook up by the whole thing.

‘It all kind of calmed down but I could tell the woman had been really affected by his outburst.’

A spokesman for the British Transport Police confirmed officers were called to Peterborough station at 11.20am on November 21 ‘following a report of a passenger behaving in an anti-social manner on a train from Newcastle to London’.

They added: ‘A 54-year-old man was removed from the service and given some words of advice. Officers believe other passengers may have witnessed what happened, and would ask them to contact BTP.’

Eccleston is currently playing Macbeth in a Royal Shakespeare Company production at the Barbican. The matinee performance of the play was cancelled the day after the incident, with a spokesman for the theatre blaming ‘an unforeseen engineering issue’.

Eccleston became the ninth incarnation of the BBC’s Time Lord when Doctor Who was revived in 2005. He left the show after just one series.

He recently revealed that he once threatened the BBC with legal action following his departure, after a Corporation spokesman claimed that Eccleston left the show because he was ‘tired’ – a quote mistakenly attributed to him.

Speaking on Simon Mayo’s BBC Radio 2 show, Eccleston said: ‘I threatened legal action and I got an apology printed in all the newspapers.

‘The BBC had to make a statement apologising for attributing quotes to me. Nobody will go on record as saying this but my agent said “you need to get out of town because you’re not going to work”.’

A spokesman for London North Eastern Railways said: ‘We can confirm that the BTP attended an LNER service on the morning in question, however our investigations continue and we are unable to comment any further.’

Eccleston’s spokesman did not respond to a request for comment last night.