Double line stations in the steam era without a goods yard in the station environs?

[Cowley]

That’s probably the most long winded title I’ve ever written...

This is a bit niche (and hopefully someone might rise to the challenge), but I’m trying to find a smallish station on a double track line (hopefully a Southern Region one, but anything interesting would do), that wouldn’t have had the standard steam era goods yard near the station...
In other words were there any stations that had the platforms and associated buildings in one place and perhaps the goods yard in another part of town? Or even on the other side of a short tunnel due in necessity because of the local geography?
I thought I’d come up trumps with Brentor until @Ash Bridge found me an old track plan showing that the SR station had a siding running behind the signal box.

Were there actually any stations up to the 1950s that didn’t feature some kind of goods handling facilities?

This is slightly railway modelling related, but I’ve put it in the history section as I thought it would be quite an interesting question. Thanks for taking a look at it.

 

[EM2]

Carrington on the GCR. In a deep cutting between two tunnels:
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/carrington/index.shtml

And according to http://www.kentrail.org.uk/Bickley.htm, Bickley didn't have any goods facilities because it was all dealt with at Bromley South.

 

[Cowley]

Carrington on the GCR. In a deep cutting between two tunnels:
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/c/carrington/index.shtml

And according to http://www.kentrail.org.uk/Bickley.htm, Bickley didn't have any goods facilities because it was all dealt with at Bromley South.

That’s exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thanks EM2.
Carrington is a perfect example of what I was looking for in fact.
There must be other examples around the uk I assume? But the way it has tunnels either side of the station is a great prototypical version of what I was hoping existed.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Stoneleigh never had any goods facilities.

Nor, I'm sure, did quite a few other suburban stations on various lines. However, at some you would have the opposite extreme - for example, one stop further down the line, Ewell West used to have very extensive facilities and even a light railway branch line away from it...

 

[Dr Hoo]

The Railway & Commercial Gazetteer listed every settlement and station. Some stations are shown as (P) or (Pass) for passenger only. For example, Chestfield & Swalecliffe, to give a Southern example that I am familiar with.

 

[yorksrob]

Do the stations between tunnels count ?

Tunbridge Wells Central springs to mind, with the yard north of the tunnel. Also, St Leonards Warrior Square and West St Leonards didn't have goods yards.

 

[Cowley]

Do the stations between tunnels count ?

Tunbridge Wells Central springs to mind, with the yard north of the tunnel. Also, St Leonards Warrior Square and West St Leonards didn't have goods yards.

Very much so, because my friend has built a model railway - set between two tunnels, and with a double track station and a viaduct at the end of the platforms. We’ve got no room for even a siding (and the point of it is basically to run trains through a winter scene).
It looks right, but it’s nice to imagine that somewhere like this could be realistic as at some point we’ll be showing it.

Great point about Tunbridge Wells Central, and thanks to everyone else too. Very helpful as I thought you would be.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Hope you have a nice Hastings 6B DEMU or similar if you go for the @yorksrob suggestion Mr C?

 

[yorksrob]

Very much so, because my friend has built a model railway - set between two tunnels, and with a double track station and a viaduct at the end of the platforms. We’ve got no room for even a siding (and the point of it is basically to run trains through a winter scene).
It looks right, but it’s nice to imagine that somewhere like this could be realistic as at some point we’ll be showing it.

Great point about Tunbridge Wells Central, and thanks to everyone else too. Very helpful as I thought you would be.

Cheers. I'm sure there were some others around. I'll add them if they spring to mind !

Come to think of it, Cooden Beach !

 

[yorksrob]

Hope you have a nice Hastings 6B DEMU or similar if you go for the @yorksrob suggestion Mr C?

Now that wood look good !

 

[Cowley]

Hope you have a nice Hastings 6B DEMU or similar if you go for the @yorksrob suggestion Mr C?

Do they do one in N yet? It wouldn’t be too much to imagine a pair from Brighton carrying on towards Plymouth via Okehampton if history had been different...


Work in progress...

 

[Ash Bridge]

Now that wood look good !

The burning question is do they make them in N Gauge?

 

[Cowley]

The burning question is do they make them in N Gauge?

You’ve lit a fire in my imagination now.

 

[yorksrob]

Do they do one in N yet? It wouldn’t be too much to imagine a pair from Brighton carrying on towards Plymouth via Okehampton if history had been different...

That makes me think a little bit of Garsdale, with Dandry Mire viaduct in the background !

 

[Ash Bridge]

Do they do one in N yet? It wouldn’t be too much to imagine a pair from Brighton carrying on towards Plymouth via Okehampton if history had been different...

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Work in progress...

I think a set (or two) may have run that way back in the 1960s on a railtour, I'm sure I read somewhere.

 

[Cowley]

That makes me think a little bit of Garsdale, with Dandry Mire viaduct in the background !

It does me too. He’s captured a good bit of bleak moorland with it.

 

[Bevan Price]

Not Southern, but Thatto Heath & Eccleston Park (between St. Helens & Huyton) never had a goods yard or siding.

 

[randyrippley]

Upwey Wishing Well Halt
on the Dorchester - Weymouth route, just south of Bincliffe tunnel / Ridgeway hill.
The station was actually situated between the two arms of the roads Hairpin Bend

alternatively Upwey itself

 

[delt1c]

Hope you have a nice Hastings 6B DEMU or similar if you go for the @yorksrob suggestion Mr C?

Ah Memories of the 6B, enjoying refreshment from the Buffet then returning to the 1st seat in the power car which was a single seat

 

[delt1c]

plenty of stations in the London area which had 2 platforms but no goods facilities. Stoke Newington, Rectory Road, Stamford Hill, London Fields, Cambridge Heath to name a few

 

[yorksrob]

Ah Memories of the 6B, enjoying refreshment from the Buffet then returning to the 1st seat in the power car which was a single seat

Those single seats are still very sought after on railtours !

 

[Ash Bridge]

Ah Memories of the 6B, enjoying refreshment from the Buffet then returning to the 1st seat in the power car which was a single seat

Those single seats are still very sought after on railtours !

Ah that sounds just perfect, sadly for me it's something I still need to sample someday.

 

[delt1c]

Ah that sounds just perfect, sadly for me it's something I still need to sample someday.

The single seats (not many) were sheer bliss, the double seats in TSO were cramped to say the least.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Would be an interesting experience if they were still in regular mainline service today as many people are of a somewhat greater mass than back in the 1950s/60s...

 

[yorksrob]

Ah that sounds just perfect, sadly for me it's something I still need to sample someday.

The single seats (not many) were sheer bliss, the double seats in TSO were cramped to say the least.

I find that travelling with a thin family member helps when travelling in the double seats.

 

[SquireBev]

Heckmondwike Spen might qualify:
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/heckmondwike/
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.7081&lon=-1.6722&layers=168&b=1

Or Bowling Junction:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=53.7760&lon=-1.7472&layers=168&b=1

 

[delt1c]

Would be an interesting experience if they were still in regular mainline service today as many people are of a somewhat greater mass than back in the 1950s/60s...

Would be classified as 1+1 (pullman on the Hastings).

 

[delt1c]

I find that travelling with a thin family member helps when travelling in the double seats.

Or tasty Totty

 

[John Webb]

For an urban scene Woolwich Dockyard was between two tunnels. It had two short sidings to start with, but these had been removed, possibly on electrification in 1926, to allow the platforms to be extended for longer passenger trains. It also had an interesting connection beyond the tunnel on the London side to the Woolwich Dockyard. This trailed off the up line across the down line into a short tunnel under Woolwich Church Street before entering the Dockyard. Only a few hundred yards further on towards London there was yet another tunnel under Maryon Park.
But not a very scenic area to model!

 

[Monarch010]

The goods yard for Bexleyheath station was a few hundred yards away, on the other side of Brampton Road on what is now Foxhollow Drive.