Dual citizenship because of Brexit

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  1. jonty14

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    Anyone else here got dual citizenship in another EU country because of Brexit? I have been living abroad for 23 years so it was necessary for me to get it.
    Best thing I have done.
     
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  3. furnessvale

    furnessvale Established Member

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    Why? Surely if this country will become the basket case claimed by remainers post Brexit, there is no need to keep UK citizenship.

    Or perhaps like many remainers, you are not so sure?
     
  4. jonty14

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    I have spent 23 years living in Europe. Nearly half my life. I wasn't allowed to vote in the referendum so to protect my rights in the EU I applied and got dual citizenship. I was not going to let brexit ruin my life and free movement in the EU. I have the best of both worlds having British and EU citizenship
     
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    I've spent the whole of my life living in Europe. And plan to spend the rest of it living here too.
     
  6. Bletchleyite

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    Because if one wishes to live in the UK it is useful to have UK citizenship. The second citizenship allows one to travel more freely.

    It's possible to like the UK as a place without approving of political policy.
     
  7. Ianno87

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    Ah, the childish mentality that put us in this mess...

    I'd like to keep my job in the UK thanks very much, and not get pushed out by the biggest example of Turkeys voting for Christmas on record. My other passport means I keep rights that others, for unfathomable reasons, voted to take away from themselves. Rights that people have literally died for, which people now take forgranted.
     
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    When did people die for EU citizenship and unfettered free movement of labour please?
     
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    A good example is the hundreds of migrants who have died trying to reach EU countries, which many see as free and safe places. Yes, some are going to non-EU countries as well, but they are mostly targeting the EU.
     
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    They weren’t fighting for your right to work and live anywhere in the Union, what are you on about?

    Those people were a mix of illegal economic migrants trying to land in countries they had no right to be in, and asylum seekers, the rights of whom were determined by the UN.
     
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    I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the people who died trying to escape the Iron curtain were attempting to get the freedoms that the West provided. Yes, technically, neither the EU nor the Schengen zone existed at the time but the principles behind both were clearly evident by the late 1980s though the implementation took some time.

    Also, there is more to the EU than free movement of labour.

    To the OP, unfortunately despite being born in West Germany I'm not eligible for citizenship in any other EU member state. Ironically, my Barbadian citizenship gives me visa-free access to the Schengen zone (though not the right to work), and it's not yet clear that the same will be true of my British citizenship.
     
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    I know exactly what I'm on about. I gave an answer to your question, but you obviously don't like it.
     
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    I did like the answer and found it amusingly missed the point being discussed. It’s akin to saying someone breaking into a shop to squat there illegally or hide from evil people was fighting for the right for me to shop anywhere I liked.
     
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    One of my friends is specifically looking to give up his British citizenship to gain Dutch, given that he has lived out there for several years and has a partner out there. You can get dual citizenship with Dutch in a few special cases, but I don't believe Brits living out there are eligible (there were discussions about allowing it, but I think those have been shelved now).

    Have you already forgot we have had an MP murdered because of her views specifically about the EU and immigration? Or do you just not care?
     
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    Can I remind everyone to remain on topic please?
     
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    My wife, doing some research into her mother's family a few years ago, discovered that her mother's mother was born in Ireland and, on that basis and once proven, she could claim Irish citizenship; this despite never having set foot in the country. Up to now, she hasn't taken this up and, of course, dual nationality wouldn't be extended to me.
     
  17. Tetchytyke

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    Brexit mentality in a nutshell.

    "If you like EU so much why don't you go live there? Oh, you have. Well I don't like EU, so you're not allowed to be British if you don't agree."

    It'd be pathetic if it weren't so destructive.
     
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    The answer is more like "Err, I already was. You're the one who took issue with the EU so why didn't you move away?"
     
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    It would be nice to be able to claim dual citizenship to keep the rights that I've had all my adult life - unfortunately I can't do that so they will be taken away from me at the end of the month. :(
     
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    It's OK. You'll have a blue passport to look at in those queues.
     
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    You will need to live on the Island of Ireland too for a period of time, it isn't enough to be married to an Irish Citizen to be eligible.
     
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    Doubt I have enough time left to take it up, even if we moved to Eire.
     
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    What queues?
     
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    I presume the "Non-EU countries" queues at EU airports.
     
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    ...and shipping ports and the like.

    Pretty much, yes. I'm being very slightly flippant, but it's more real concern.
     
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    As @Doppelganger noted, you don't have to live in (the Republic of) Ireland to qualify. You have to live on the island of Ireland. Which includes Northern Ireland.
     
  27. Mojo

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    I must admit, I don’t often to go EU/Efta countries very often because I think Continental countries are overpriced and don’t really value foreign tourists, but when I have, I tend to find that the majority of people on the flight are British and thus any queues at sensible airports will have more desks available for British passport holders, especially given that many such airports seem to do inspections either at the gate, or just on arrivals from non-Schengen locations many of which there are fewer arrivals of.
     
  28. Doppelganger

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    Except it won't be extra desks for British passport holders (they aren't that important that they need their own ones, are they?), It will be EU/EEA desks and then everyone else.

    So a British passport holder will be in the same queue as someone from Kenya or India and wait as their visa is checked and passport scrutinised, while the EU/EEA passport holders sail through hassle free. But that is what the British voted for...
     
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    Maybe. But British tourists have a lot of choices and news travels fast on social media. Any cities/countries who get a reputation for long queues at the airport are going to swiftly start losing business. An airport with a UK only queue when our flights arrive is going to get a lot of good PR
     
  30. dosxuk

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    "They need us more than we need them" is still thriving here.
     
  31. Meerkat

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    The Remainer hyperbole is still thriving....
    I said there might be longer queues, but on the other hand there are reasons why there might not be.
    There are places that make a lot of money out of our tourists and are probably already suffering from currency issues. If they have the capacity to avoid queues for people bringing spending in then why wouldn’t they do it?
    Conversely UK airports could (not would) have UK only queues which are quicker than EU ones for getting home.
     

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