DutchFlyer - Starting in the Netherlands

[orpine]

I'm trying to buy a ticket from netherlands to uk on the dutchflyer. As I'm only going one-way and starting in netherlands direction it seems I have to use dutch website (https://www.stenaline.nl/en-GB-nl/england/rail-and-sail).

A couple of clarifying questions:
Does it include rail travel within the Netherlands? UK -> Netherlands includes it both ends, but the above linked page says:

"Train tickets for NS (Dutch Railways) to and from the port are not included in the booking, they can be bought directly at the railway station."

And the "outward" only includes "Hoek van Holland".

Why is this is? I thought it was meant to include rail on both ends?

 

[Quakkerillo]

Just checked the UK website:

http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry-to-holland/rail-and-sail/dutchflyer-fares
It is either only from the port itself, or only from an Abellio Greater Anglia station.

So the only thing I can think of is keeping the ticket price 'under 50', and with 49 quid being more than 49 euro, the extra money is used to offer the Dutch train part.

 

[Greenback]

I don't know what the situation is now, but some years ago I managed to buy a Sail Rail ticket on the Dutch site following Mark Smith's excellent instructions at www.seat61.com.

I had to buy my own rail tickets, and the cost of these was then refunded at the check in desk in Hoek van Holland.

 

[orpine]

I'll actually be coming from denmark, probably spending the night in hamburg.

I'm guessing if I buy a Sparpreis for €49 (hamburg to hoek van holland), that's probably the easliest way, though I won't get any refund for it?

 

[Greenback]

No, it was only Dutch domestic tickets that qualified for a refund. It was the reverse of the Any Dutch station you could get from the UK, which included travel to the port from London and other stations in the East Anglia area.

IS the sparpreis ticket from Hamburg through to Hoek van Holland going to be cheaper than getting one to the Dutch border and then buying a separate ticket onwards within Holland?

It seems like it could well be the case to me, and if I'm right in my suspicion that would be the optimum way to do it in any case.

 

[richardderby]

not sure where you are heading to in the UK, but NS do tickets from Amsterdam to St Pancras via the Eurostar for 59 Euro one way (subject to availability).
https://www.nsinternational.nl/en

 

[30907]

IS the sparpreis ticket from Hamburg through to Hoek van Holland going to be cheaper than getting one to the Dutch border and then buying a separate ticket onwards within Holland?

It seems like it could well be the case to me, and if I'm right in my suspicion that would be the optimum way to do it in any case.

Oddly enough it might be. The base Sparpreis Bad Bentheim - Hoek is EUR19 as is Hamburg-BB whereas the through ticket seems to start at EUR19. Might be worth checking Copenhagen-BB with stopover in Hamburg, and/or a further split at Oldenburg (Holstein).

 

[cjp]

I'm trying to buy a ticket from netherlands to uk on the dutchflyer. As I'm only going one-way and starting in netherlands direction it seems I have to use dutch website (https://www.stenaline.nl/en-GB-nl/england/rail-and-sail).

A couple of clarifying questions:
Does it include rail travel within the Netherlands? UK -> Netherlands includes it both ends, but the above linked page says:

"Train tickets for NS (Dutch Railways) to and from the port are not included in the booking, they can be bought directly at the railway station."

And the "outward" only includes "Hoek van Holland".

Why is this is? I thought it was meant to include rail on both ends?

A couple of years back I telephoned the contact number for the Dutch site.
They spoke excellent English.
The problem was buying the Dutch rail ticket part and getting it sent to the UK but with some persuasion they did it and I had a trouble free journey back - I flew there.

 

[Greenback]

Oddly enough it might be. The base Sparpreis Bad Bentheim - Hoek is EUR19 as is Hamburg-BB whereas the through ticket seems to start at EUR19. Might be worth checking Copenhagen-BB with stopover in Hamburg, and/or a further split at Oldenburg (Holstein).

Every time I've looked at international tickets from Germany to The Netherlands, it's been pretty much the same price to any station. Admittedly, most of the checks I've done have been in the other direction, but going that way I've always found that the cost was the same from Hoek as it would be from Utrecht and other cities I've looked at.

I've never looked at more complicated splits. I'm not so confident with splitting in Europe, and the through fares seem to be reasonable enough, unlike here with operators like XC!

 

[Groningen]

From the total north of the Netherlands i have a Groningen - London with the Eurostar for 83 euro. In 1 train the 2nd Class is full; so First class and 412 euro (one way). Back also for 83. The difference between Thalys and Brussel Intercity is 100 euro in fares in each direction. In October i see several trains between Amsterdam and London and v.v. for 59 euro per direction.