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Early election - who would you vote for?

Who would you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 26 27.1%
  • Labour with any leader

    Votes: 13 13.5%
  • Labour with Corbyn as leader

    Votes: 12 12.5%
  • Labour with a different leader

    Votes: 10 10.4%
  • Libdems

    Votes: 20 20.8%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • SNP (if applicable)

    Votes: 3 3.1%
  • Another party

    Votes: 4 4.2%

  • Total voters
    96
  • Poll closed .
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Howardh

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As it says on the tin...

Early election as in a General Election between now and May 31 2017 (if called)
 
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Harbornite

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I see you've chosen to have anonymous results. I threw my hat into the ring and went with Conservatives. If not them, I'd would vote Lib Dems.
 

aformeruser

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Worth remembering on here the result will be very different to a wider poll. I wouldn't be surprised if based on a poll on here we had a Corbyn led government with Tim Farron as leader of the opposition.
 

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I don't see why there should be an election. We all vote for local MPs to represent us - and the sum of those MPs decides the governing party, which in turn decides who will lead them. A change of leader does not alter that flow of responsibility.

That said, we all know that, on the whole, we vote with party allegiance. This puts me in a quandary - I have always voted Labour, and my last MP (Jo Cox RIP) was superb. I voted for her, not Ed Miliband, who I thought would be an ineffective leader. At the time, I was glad I had such a strong local candidate to give my vote to, and I hope that remains the case when her successor is chosen.

Corbyn is something else though. I really cannot support the party with him as 'leader'. I put that in quotes, because I don't believe him to be a leader. He is far better suited to heckling the government - and opposition - from the back benches. Leaders cannot be mavericks as well.

I suppose I'm a Blairite at heart. Putting to one side the disastrous Iraq war decisions, I thought he had a good premiership, with money spent on the things I thought were important: the 'third way' in politics. I would like to see Labour back in that kind of mode - realistic socialism - but without the endless spinning of stories that somewhat took over. Andy Burnham as leader would, I think, make my choice easy, given that Alan Johnson has repeatedly ruled himself out.
 

Howardh

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I don't see why there should be an election. We all vote for local MPs to represent us - and the sum of those MPs decides the governing party, which in turn decides who will lead them. A change of leader does not alter that flow of responsibility.

That said, we all know that, on the whole, we vote with party allegiance. This puts me in a quandary - I have always voted Labour, and my last MP (Jo Cox RIP) was superb. I voted for her, not Ed Miliband, who I thought would be an ineffective leader. At the time, I was glad I had such a strong local candidate to give my vote to, and I hope that remains the case when her successor is chosen.

Corbyn is something else though. I really cannot support the party with him as 'leader'. I put that in quotes, because I don't believe him to be a leader. He is far better suited to heckling the government - and opposition - from the back benches. Leaders cannot be mavericks as well.

I suppose I'm a Blairite at heart. Putting to one side the disastrous Iraq war decisions, I thought he had a good premiership, with money spent on the things I thought were important: the 'third way' in politics. I would like to see Labour back in that kind of mode - realistic socialism - but without the endless spinning of stories that somewhat took over. Andy Burnham as leader would, I think, make my choice easy, given that Alan Johnson has repeatedly ruled himself out.
The reason for the poll is to see how the waters are flowing now - it's something the party leaders will be doing, and wasn't it a fault of Brown that he could have gone to the country in a strong position with the polls, didn't, and suffered the concequences?
If Labour's divided and can't sort itself out before October, May should go then as she's facing a very difficult 3 - 4 years and there might not be a better chance.
Even so, I won't be voting Tory as I did last time.
 

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...wasn't it a fault of Brown that he could have gone to the country in a strong position with the polls, didn't, and suffered the concequences?

Certainly was. But one of the first pieces of legislation brought in by the coalition was fixed 5 year parliaments. Apparently this means that early elections can no longer be called by the government: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946 says:
"...the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, which came into force in 2011 under the Coalition Government, removed the power to set the general election date, and therefore to call an early general election, from the Government and gave a power to the House of Commons to call an early general election in certain circumstances.

An early general election can only be called under the Act if either a motion (as worded in section 2(2) of the Act) that there shall be an early parliamentary general election is passed by the House of Commons with at least two thirds in favour of the motion; or if a motion of no confidence (as worded in section 2(4) of the Act) is passed by the House of Commons and the House does not pass a motion of confidence (as worded in section 2(5) of the Act) in the Government or an alternative Government within 14 days. Aside from these triggers there is no way to replace the Government through an early General Election."​
 

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If Captain Corbyn remains at the helm of Labour I will most definately vote Tory, as I will do my utmost to ensure that Corbyn never gets into office. And I say this as a floating voter/independent who usually aligns with the LibDems, except on the Iraq War and Trident, both of which i support.

With someone like Angela Eagle/A Blairite as Labour leader I would probably vote Labour, to ensure that brexit negotiations are not taken over by the far right factions of the Tory party
 
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If there us a General Election and the Conservatives win, as looks a certainty with the present position of the Labour Party, then there will be a Conservative government for another five years following the election. Do not think that if the grandees in the Tories decide this is what they want that some piffling Act will be an impediment to the election taking place. Who would have thought that the Tory leadership contest would be over before it started? Me actually, as I posted last weekend : also said several times after the last election on this forum that there would be an election following the referendum. No great skills involved in such forecasts, just a very close reading of the tea leaves and listening to the nuances of statements and, just as important, seeing what is NOT being said.
 

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If there us a General Election and the Conservatives win, as looks a certainty with the present position of the Labour Party, then there will be a Conservative government for another five years following the election.

Slightly OT but I'll ask anyway. In the event of a snap election, would it be a 5 year period until the next election, or would the next general election fall on the date based off the initial election?
 

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I'd most likely vote for the SNP, although I would consider all the candidates standing in my constituency. As things stand, I would be unable to vote for either the Conservative or Labour parties, both of whom are seemingly on the verge of imploding.
 

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Afraid Labour's gone from me this side of independence.
So Nicola Sturgeon will get my vote.
 

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Slightly OT but I'll ask anyway. In the event of a snap election, would it be a 5 year period until the next election, or would the next general election fall on the date based off the initial election?

It would probably re-set the clock to 5 years.
 

Dave1987

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Why should there be another General Election. Why should there be another referendum.

The electorate had spoken in both these two events.

Well Teresa May did say when Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair that there should of been a general election called. So surely a general election should be called now. I for one will not be voting Tory for the foreseeable future after Claire Perry's comments about drivers on Southern working to rule.
 

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Well Teresa May did say when Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair that there should of been a general election called. So surely a general election should be called now. I for one will not be voting Tory for the foreseeable future after Claire Perry's comments about drivers on Southern working to rule.

Did Gordon Brown call an election? It is just standard politics as practised by politicians of every description which should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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I think somebody on the forums last week said we would still have another election in 2020

In which case they are wrong. The act refers to the life of a parliament which starts when parliament is recalled after an election.
 

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Genuinely quite surprised by such high support for the LibDems - obviously not representative of the whole population, but it's promising.
 

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Remember that the different results for Labour have to be added together - any leader + Corbyn, and any leader + different leader.
 

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I would want to see the manifesto and also the candidate for my constituency but I would probably vote LibDem. Which would be a waste as I think this area has firmly returned to its 'put a red rosette on it and they'll elect it' roots (not that there is anything wrong with our MP I quite like her actually!) after a brief flirtation with the LibDems in 2010 - 2015.
 

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I suspect an election in the next 6 months would throw up massive swings compared with 2015
 

bignosemac

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Asking how you would vote in a General Election then splitting the Labour Party options? Such a split would not be on the ballot paper.

Why aren't the other main party options also split between incumbent, any, or other, leader? Who's to say Theresa May and Tim Farron will be party leaders at the next General Election?

The poll is flawed. No conclusions can rightly be drawn from it.
 

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Remember that the different results for Labour have to be added together - any leader + Corbyn, and any leader + different leader.

Unfortunately, that also leaves the results somewhat ambiguous, since those who voted for either the Labour with Corbyn or the Labour without Corbyn options have no way to indicate who they'd vote for if their preferred leader isn't elected. So presumably, whoever the Labour leader is, the totals for some of the other parties would end up somewhat higher than the results are showing.

Not looking good for Labour, since right now, even their highest combination is lower than the Conservatives and equal to the LibDems - and that's on this forum, which seems to have a higher proportion of Labour supporters than is the case nationally.
 

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I vote for the candidate rather than the party, and as I like my current MP, I will be voting for him again at the next election.
 
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