East Croydon

Discussion in 'UK Railway Discussion' started by Chrisgr31, 25 Oct 2011.

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  1. Chrisgr31

    Chrisgr31 Established Member

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    Yet again today there were issues at East Croydon, this time apparently due to signalling problems. Is there a campaign to prove that East Croydon is a bottleneck and needs money spent on finding a solution? Seems to be coming a regular habit that the mainline is in chaos.

    Mind you at least the Uckfield Line was still running today and it was East Grinstead, Caterham, and Tattenham Corner that took most of the cancellations.
     
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  3. pendolino

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    Apparently it was a wrong side failure on signal T123, country end of platform 6, which meant that that platform could not be used until extensive testing could be completed; consequently the number of paths through East Croydon was drastically reduced.

    It was still possible to get to Caterham/Tattenham/East Grinstead (as far as I'm aware) by changing but not necessarily on the usual direct services from Vic or London Bridge which were reduced in number because of the fewer paths available. Still, hugely frustrating for all involved.

    There's certainly no campaign to prove it's a bottleneck though.
     
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    I remember reading in he last 5 years about hand signalmen being deployed on the FFC Great Northern route on evening due to signal problems. They put in an mergence timetable but even then struggled to keep to it.

    Why couldn't hand signalmen be used at East Croydon, to keep all lines open, abet running more slowly and less trains due to speed restrictions.
     
  5. Tomnick

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    I suspect, even if (a big if!) the testing work allowed it, you'd be better off (and safer) running traffic over one line normally than trying to push trains through the other line too. You'd probably have to instruct each Driver to pass two signals at Danger (the defective one, and the one in rear), and you'd have to set the routes up manually. That on its own would almost certainly have an effect on the line being "signalled normally". There used to be restrictions on running traffic over adjacent lines whilst you're calling the first one past a signal (because of the risk of an incorrectly set route) after you've changed the route in advance - if that's still in the Rule Book, it'd completely knacker things.
     
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