East Kent Railway - Vandalism.

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  1. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    The East Kent Railway are reported a case of arson and vandalism on their railway through Twitter 11 hours ago:
    From https://twitter.com/EastKentRailway/status/1189815034425364480

    I am putting this on there in the hope that people can come forward with information and help for the railway. I am not associated with the East Kent Railway but this should never happen to any group, let alone a heritage line.

    They have also tweeted this:
    From https://twitter.com/EastKentRailway/status/1189947649765625867

    -Peter
     
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  3. gazthomas

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    That's a real shame, I hope the Police find who did this
     
  4. Alanko

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    They have a fundraiser running on their Facebook page.
     
  5. Peter C

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    It definitely is. There is an email in the first tweet for people to share any information they have.

    -Peter
     
  6. Peter C

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    Excellent. Apparently they have lost valuable and irreplaceable items.

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    Terrible, although all too common news these days.

    Is there any news on whether any of their rolling stock has been affected ?
     
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    It is terrible that this has happened,

    This article gives a fair bit of detail, it appears no rolling stock was damaged, but a storage building with artefacts and tools that are needed for track repairs were damaged/destroyed. At least they are able to keep on running.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canter...oss-weve-lost-inreplaceable-artefacts-215331/

     
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    I think someone online mentioned that their rolling stock had been affected in some way, although this was on a Train Simulator livestream on Twitch after I mentioned the subject in the chat. If you want to look for the livestream, it's on Alan Thomson's Twitch channel, and it is his latest stream, around 1 hour in. I can't remember what he said exactly though, and he seems to know quite a bit as he knows people who are themselves "in-the-know". I can't confirm that the rolling stock has been affected.

    -Peter
     
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    That's a great shame. They have some very rare electric stock there.
     
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    Think it was their Ranger Station in Knees Wood that was destroyed and that it didn't affect the rolling stock. As it was there schools visitor centre I understand that some historic items were stored there and destroyed.
     
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    Even if they are found, the worst that will probably happen is that some do-gooders in the legal system will give them a very light punishment - quite possibly including waffle about deprived childhoods, and the real fault lay elsewhere.
     
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    If I had it my way, these vandals would be horse whipped.
    We need to cut the soft options and actually punish society's scum.
     
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    I am sorry to hear of this, yet another heritage line hit by vandals. So sad, especially for the hard working volunteers. (Something similar happened at a model railway exhibition in the Midlands I think, earlier in the year.)

    I hope they do catch the culprits.
     
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    Who would you get to do the whipping or would you like the pleasure of doing it yourself ?
     
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    Quite. Fundraising will go so far to remunerate them, but you can't replace the irreplaceable.


    If Terry Tait relishes at the prospect of whipping some young lads then I'm a bit concerned!


    There is always at least one post of this ilk in any given thread involving vandalism and heritage railways. Do you have historic evidence that indicates that any of this might happen, or do you secretly enjoy the prospect of the injustice of it all? Step away from the Daily Mail.
     
  17. Peter C

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    Exactly. I don't understand why people want to destroy other groups' items like this.

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    Me neither to be honest. I felt the same about that model railway exhibition that got targeted. Money can't replace all the man-hours that went into scratch building the models and scenery. I guess some people enjoy the notoriety or sense of accomplishment they get from destroying something unique that they know somebody else poured their heart and soul into. I can't have it, so the next best option is to destroy it. Very faulty logic, but fairly prevalent in young males who lack clear guidance.
     
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    I genuinely despair at modern society and even more so at the fact that nothing will probably be done if the offenders are ever found. I say let the volunteers of the railway into the offenders houses and allow them to trash and destroy their belongings - might make them realise the pain of losing something they enjoy to have. Then again their parents would probably just replace their stuff with new things without a second thought
     
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    I think that might be the reason, yes. But I can't say from experience as I have respect and don't go around ruining other groups' items and destroying irreplaceable items.

    -Peter
     
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    Even if they are found, the worst that will probably happen is that some do-gooders in the legal system will give them a very light punishment - quite possibly including waffle about deprived childhoods, and the real fault lay elsewhere.

    See post 82 in the Model Railway Vandalism thread
    https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-in-at-welland-academy-stamford.182937/page-3

    "Referral orders" , and parents having to pay £500 compensation for £30,000 worth of damage do not strike me as being stern punishment.
     
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    Firstly I agree that violence isn't a good solution. Though I will point out they are probably not that young (incidentally I do think young people in general do get unjustified bad press; the vast majority of young people would be disgusted at such behaviour and would never commit such acts)

    It reminds me of this incident: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-break-in-at-welland-academy-stamford.182937/ which led to a discussion about whether or not existing punishments for acts of vandalism are a sufficient deterrent: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...lism-sufficient-to-act-as-a-deterrent.186566/

    If anyone wants to discuss that topic further it's probably best done in that thread.
     
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    Speaking as a young person, I can say that I am in the group of those who are appalled at what these people do for fun. No-one I know would do such a thing and I think they are a bit weird, so these people must be lunatics!

    -Peter
     
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    Perhaps they suffer with mental problems or are high on drugs. Just a thought.
     
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    The second point, as with alcohol, should be treated as an aggravating factor when it comes to sentencing, not used in mitigation.
     

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