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Discussion in 'Traction & Rolling Stock' started by londonmidland, 7 Aug 2019.
Yes the livery is on 222104. Looks better than I thought but I've still seen better.
The yellow front ruins it completely.
Looks very nice, yellow front and all!
Looks very nice! Far better than the EMT livery.
The front kinda looks like it's moved to CrossCountry already. Regardless, it looks alright, although I think I still prefer the EMT livery.
In my opinion what could look a professional and nice livery is 100% ruined by the front being yellow.
Do the Meridians not comply with the new rule about yellow front ends, or rather not needing one? Sorry, I can't remember what it's called but it's something to do with the brightness of the headlights?
It might not be to everyone's taste but think it looks quite smart. I always thought the EMT livery looked a bit like a children's colouring book!
The livery looks very good in my opinion. I hope 222104 is out and about on Wednesday.
The removal of the yellow fronts would require a headlight upgrade. Which basically means removal of the traditional bulb and replaced with a (very bright) LED.
It needs to be yellow: the headlights don’t meet the current standard which allows the yellow to be dispensed with.
Perhaps it's my eyesight but what are those brown splurges on the front and down the sides -any ideas?
They’re just pieces of paper covering the headlights.
Looks good. I like it, different to what we’ve seen before
I completely disagree with those saying the yellow front ruins it, I think it looks fantastic.
That looks very nice!
Re the yellow front, once you are on the train you won't see it, and I seriously doubt anyone has ever in the history of yellow fronts ever decided "I was all for catching the train but the yellow front upsets me so much I can't bring myself to use it".
It'll be interesting to see it out tomorrow in the daylight without the masking tape to get the full effect. Can't help thinking it'll look dull on the 99% of days when the great British weather persists down. Funny, I remember when "enthusiasts" hated BR all-over blue because it was dull, even the great Sir Peter Parker decided to paint all passenger carrying stock in two-tone blue-grey to brighten up things, yet today "enthusiasts" get all excited about a new monotone livery like GWR or this EMR "aubergine" and decry brighter liveries.
Nowt so inconsistent as enthusiasts.
The yellow is unbalanced so I think only one side has been done in that pic.
The livery in my view looks awful on modern stock like that. It's not a "modernised classic" like GWR British Racing Green, it's an old fashioned livery. It's the bodyside band that kills it; something similar to GWR green but with the purple with modern elements (like the GWR matt diagonal stripes) would work.
The branding is also horribly dated (again unlike GWR).
And modifying it so both bright headlights are used at all times, and I think changing the alignment slightly.
It looks a little...dated.
Nice to see this - tho think I'd have been happier if my 158 from Liverpool today had had any interior cleaning whatsoever.....really messy, one lav out of order, finger marks and muck all over window interiors, crisps on seats and floor worse.
Not an example of how to make good first impressions...
Agreed. It looks like something you'd find badly applied to a Mk1 at a third rate preserved railway, not a modern InterCity route.
I think it looks nice
156406 & 156408 now have EMR logos.
This makes a change from the preponderance of mostly white liveries.
Not even 10% of the original MML 222 livery. Think the most positive thing I can say is that it's functional. Dull also comes to mind. Even intercity blue & grey has more going on than this.
Have they done anything to the interior? Many 222s have threadbare seats, ingrained dirt and the seals on the windows are knackered leading to condensation between the panes of glass (thanks to repeated franchise extensions and no incentive to invest in the refurb these units now deserve)
No idea. They haven't had much time so I'm guessing at the moment they haven't. I believe it only went into the paint shop 2 or 3 days ago.
Nottingham has EMR information point signage.
My mother reports that they're giving out cupcakes at Leicester station today.
..and very nice they were too.