East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

[Ken H]

I have it on good authority a Cl 43 will be painted in EMT purple livery soon. Just in time for withdrawal. Ho Hum...

(No I dont have a source. just grapevine)

 

[43096]

I have it on good authority a Cl 43 will be painted in EMT purple livery soon. Just in time for withdrawal. Ho Hum...

(No I dont have a source. just grapevine)

So the grapevine is good authority....

 

[43 302]

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[Pippy1505]

Does anyone know which 156/9's are at Barrow Hill.

Mark

Was 916/917 and 918 returned to etches Park today

 

[221101 Voyager]

I have it on good authority a Cl 43 will be painted in EMT purple livery soon. Just in time for withdrawal. Ho Hum...

(No I dont have a source. just grapevine)

The fact you've referred to EMR as EMT, doesn't give me much faith this 'Good Authority' has any truth.

I shall believe it when I see a photo of it, fresh out the paint shop, if it happens.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

If EMR were to release a painted Purple 43, only weeks before they withdraw it and bring on a fleet of rather grubby, dark blue and unrefurbished 360s, there’s gonna be some questions to be asked about the priorities of their time and money.

 

[221101 Voyager]

If EMR were to release a painted Purple 43, only weeks before they withdraw it and bring on a fleet of rather grubby, dark blue and unrefurbished 360s, there’s gonna be some questions to be asked about the priorities of their time and money.

Certainly.

Does anyone know the latest on when 360 repaints may start?

 

[greatvoyager]

If EMR were to release a painted Purple 43, only weeks before they withdraw it and bring on a fleet of rather grubby, dark blue and unrefurbished 360s, there’s gonna be some questions to be asked about the priorities of their time and money.

Seems quite tame when compared to LNER repainting a whole set into retro livery.

 

[LowLevel]

Seems quite tame when compared to LNER repainting a whole set into retro livery.

Ultimately we are in a different world now. The gestures are nice but spending money on a full set for a railtour isn't going to happen (you can't operate a retro set on a service train without modifying the livery).

 

[greatvoyager]

Ultimately we are in a different world now. The gestures are nice but spending money on a full set for a railtour isn't going to happen (you can't operate a retro set on a service train without modifying the livery).

Very true.

 

[DG85]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned already but EMR are now rebranding the cl360s as “EMR CONNECT” instead of “Electrics”.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned already but EMR are now rebranding the cl360s as “EMR CONNECT” instead of “Electrics”.

Oh, interesting, didn't know that.

Is the removal of the word 'electrics' a sign they will use 156s instead?

 

[Chiltern006]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned already but EMR are now rebranding the cl360s as “EMR CONNECT” instead of “Electrics”.

have you got a source mate?

 

[DG85]

have you got a source mate?

Yeah EMR company magazine

 

[Chiltern006]

ooh nice. may explain the lack of newly liveried units

 

[Energy]

I wonder why they chose to rebrand.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I always thought Electrics sounded unpleasantly retro, so I welcome the decision personally.

 

[43096]

I wonder why they chose to rebrand.

Well the Class 810s will be electric as well (in places), so wonder if they're wanting to avoid any confusion, as no doubt part of the "sell" on the 810s when they arrive will be the green bit of using electricity.

 

[OTRail]

Well the Class 810s will be electric as well (in places), so wonder if they're wanting to avoid any confusion, as no doubt part of the "sell" on the 810s when they arrive will be the green bit of using electricity.

In addition, it could be because electrification will eventually be extended north of Kettering (albeit not for a while)

 

[Rick1984]

shame i quite liked 'electrics', had an old school feel to it

 

[Ethan1852]

At the bottom of the company magazine it says only 4 170s will join at the May timetable. Also if what they say about the 360 relivery happens then hopefully we should see a couple of units in the new livery before introduction.

 

[DG85]

At the bottom of the company magazine it says only 4 170s will join at the May timetable. Also if what they say about the 360 relivery happens then hopefully we should see a couple of units in the new livery before introduction.

With the cl360s planned to be running as 8car initially from May it free ups a lot of spare units to be sent off for refurbishment.

 

[RealTrains07]

A picture is going around twitter and discord of 43274 in a depot for what potentially could be another repaint/rebrand.

Does any one have any information on this?

 

[_toommm_]

A picture is going around twitter and discord of 43274 in a depot for what potentially could be another repaint/rebrand.

Does any one have any information on this?

Potentially EMR purple? The rumours are surfacing again…

 

[ashkeba]

I always thought Electrics sounded unpleasantly retro, so I welcome the decision personally.

Has not Connect been used as a brand enough before to be tainted, including some that never launched? Heathrow Connect, First Capital Connect, Midlands Connect, Northern Connect, XC Connect, probably more.

 

[LowLevel]

It'll cause confusion at Derby where the mixed link of local and intercity drivers still call themselves the Connect link from the short lived period in 2008 when EMT called the local trains Connect

 

[dorsetdesiro]

Tainted "Connect" may be, I shudder when I think of FCC, but it doesn't come across as humdrum as "EMR COMMUTER" though I'd like to see "Electrics" swapped with Express - "EMR EXPRESS"

 

[Merle Haggard]

Presumably 'Connect' is adopted because travel to the North for passengers on the 360s involves a connection at Kettering.
Be a bit of an ironic name if connections aren't held there for late running, though.

 

[43102EMR]

Presumably 'Connect' is adopted because travel to the North for passengers on the 360s involves a connection at Kettering.
Be a bit of an ironic name if connections aren't held there for late running, though.

I’m pretty sure at present Kettering dwell times for Corby services are longer than other Intercity ones?

 

[43055]

Updated list:

Class 43 HST power cars:
43102 - Intercity Swallow 'The Journey Shrinker 148.5mph The World's Fastest Diesel Train'
43238 - red, EMR branding
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding
43274 - red, EMR branding (in for repaint, possibly purple)
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding

MK3 Coach sets:
'red' sets (Ex LNER). All 6 coaches.
NL56
NL57
NL58

Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional


170503 - WMR outgoing livery - Currently at Crewe for re-livery
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170530 - WMR outgoing livery - No branding (being used on training runs)
170531 - Full EMR Regional

Class 180:
180109 - EMR outgoing livery
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360 (Some might be at Northampton):
360101 - Blue with White stripe
360102 - Blue with White stripe
360103 - Blue with White stripe
360104 - Blue with White stripe
360105 - Blue with White stripe
360106 - Blue with White stripe
360107 - Blue with White stripe
360108 - Blue with White stripe
360109 - Blue with White stripe
360110 - Blue with White stripe
360111 - Blue with White stripe
360112 - Blue with White stripe
360113 - Blue with White stripe
360114 - Blue with White stripe
360115 - Blue with White stripe
360116 - Blue with White stripe
360117 - Blue with White stripe
360118 - Blue with White stripe
360119 - Blue with White stripe
360120 - Blue with White stripe
360121 - Blue with White stripe

Spoiler: Withdrawn Stock

43300, 305, 306, 316, 319 are withdrawn but still at Neville Hill.
43045, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43299 is being used on the NMT with Network Rail branding.
43050, 052, 054, 066, 076 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S).
43044, 048, 089 are now part of the 125group.
43046, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 047, 049, 064, 073, 081, 082, 277, 290 are now at Burton West Yard.
43314, 318 are at Ely
43465, 468, 480, 484 are with Rail Adventure at Eastleigh
43296, 308, 423, 467 are with Rail Adventure at Willesden
43307, 317 are at Barrow Hill

Mk3's:
NL01, NL03 Scrapped/8 coaches to 125 group (3 from NL01, 5 from NL03)
NL04 Scrapped/1 coach sold to LSL
NL06, NL07, NL08, NL10, NL12, NL52, NL53, NL54, various spare 'red' vehicles from different sets have been scrapped.
NL11 Scrapped/3 coaches sold to LSL, 1 coach at Leicester for DATS
DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
NL55 is withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
NL51 is stored at Barrow Hill
ex EMT spares: 3 scrapped, 1 sold to LSL
shared spare buffet 40751 (between VTEC/LNER and EMT/R) remains at Gascoigne Wood and believed to be sold on.

Class 153's
153302, 368, 374 are stored at Ely
153311, 376, 381. 383, 385 are stored at Burton West Yard
153310, 313, 318, 321, 326, 368, 372, 382 are now with TFW