My position is one where we should respect each other and be a bit more tolerant of other people actions. I fully agree that politely asking would have been the best and sensible option. The problem with today's society is that we are becoming more and more afraid to speak up, have an opinion, take responsibility, and indeed worry about people pulling a knife. We shouldn't live in fear that someone will attack us but we need to be mindful that it is possible. In contrast, we should be worried about eating an egg on a train in the fear that someone will abuse us for doing so. Yes, there has to be some kind of balance. As to what that is, I just don't know. On a side note. I was watching the tellybox a few weeks ago where this topic was discussed. Society has moved on, rightly or wrongly, in that people will now happily walk down the high street guzzling a large late whilst eating a burger. Years ago, eating in public would not be socially acceptable. There is clearly a clash as to what is socially acceptable. I play trains on a regular basis. Eating an egg is the least of your worries. Take the vomit comet back from London of an evening and you will see what people are eating. Before, and after its goes in the body.
Nope. It's a public transport system. Until such time as it's banned then people are free to chow down on anything. The uppity folk who don't like it have a choice. Move or don't board. As for me, I have a car and use it regularly. To get to work to drive the trains. Someone scoffing is the least offensive thing that can happen on trains. Believe me.
Spot on There are but often on services which are dead anyway (I encountered this on the 09:43 Edinburgh to North Berwick recently)
No, that would be covered by the part of my post you've missed that specified only on services where food isn't sold onboard. I'm obviously not being 100% serious, although if GN would ban food between King's Lynn and Cambridge, that would be fantastic...
I am amazed at the responses on here - and the level of intolerance... Can I suggest whilst doing your list of banned smelly foodstuffs you might want to add coffee which some people may also find olfactorally challenging (especially if they haven't got a cup too). As for being offended by the smell of a boiled egg - where all this seems to have started - harden up folks.
you take your chances with public transport in any case. it is..well..public. some people don't have the best dental hygiene either,and can be quite aromatic when they start talking! what then? tell them not to breathe or bring a gas mask?
How did the male friend ascertain the restaurant or bar was only being frequented by people he knew on the occasions you went? Ringing everyone in the BT Telephone Directory beforehand too
Fortunately as of the end of the year, class 153s will not be permitted to run on their own, meaning there will always be an opportunity to move carriages* if someone's food is pungent. Granted the same problem may occur in the next carriage, but it's not that likely. *Although if attached to a 150/1 or 170 you'll have to wait till the next station. Don't worry, you're using one of the few routes where 153s still operate, meaning it can't be far away.
Have armpit sniffers on the platform or at gate barriers refusing travel to those who haven't topped up their antiperspirant in the last hour. Utopian rail network overnight!
Oh, the 'parking nearby' thing, it's like a religion to some people. We had some training coming up at work, and one colleague was fretting about parking at or near the venue for a good fortnight beforehand... But the venue in question is literally 10 minutes walk away from our office, where he parks every day!
I recall at Birmingham coach station a few months ago -- incident involving a coach for London: the Cockney driver was playing hell with a chap who wanted to bring his hot snack on to the coach, let it cool down, and then eat it. The driver "wasn't having a bar of that". The guy accepted defeat, while muttering resentfully.
One gathers that a fair number of things are banned in Singapore: though from what's heard about durian, it definitely does not belong on public transport. Something I heard a while ago (if I didn't imagine hearing it): it's "universally known" that chewing gum is banned in Singapore. But according to the snippet of info which -- I thought anyway -- came my way: one can get chewing gum there, on prescription. Wonderful visions ensued, of every "bent" doctor in Singapore merrily taking bribes from patients to certify them as chewing-gum-addicted, and prescribe accordingly. Made the Singaporeans seem human after all...
Oh yes. Last week I was sat on the Peterborough to Lincoln dogbox. Every so often a sewage like smell wafted across, bad enough to make me gag. Cursed the smelly toilet retention tank, then remembered they don't have retention tanks. There was a guy fast asleep in the seat behind me, mouth breathing. The inside of his mouth looked horrific and it was apparent that this was the source of the smell. I had to move seats. It was that bad. No food smell is as bad as poor hygiene smells.
Let's embrace cultural differences! When I went to China, there was a smell of garlic in any enclosed space, but no doubt I smelt of dairy products. In an indoor swimming pool it was a gross breach of etiquette not to walk from the changing room to the pool in flip-flops, yet people were spitting on the floor -perhaps the two are linked. My Chinese friend said, "you can joke at us eating things like whole frogs, chicken feet and duck tongues, but you eat things that come out of cows' t*ts!"
May I introduce to the thread "the loud conversation on the mobile". Oh my giddy aunt how selfish of these people. How unaware they seem to be .
This morning I boarded a North Downs line train and sat down. A woman opposite started having a loud conversation on her phone's speaker. I assumed she would mute it and put it to her ear to continue, but no. She continued to chat for several minutes, oblivious to anyone else. As she and I were the only two in the section, I took out my phone and played some loud music through the speaker. After a short time she asked if I would turn it down - I replied that I would if she would! She seemed completely unaware that her loud broadcasting of both ends of her conversation could possibly annoy anyone else - she may not do that again soon! Am I intolerant of others' selfish behaviour? You bet! The same social rules should apply to smelly food - it's just harder to make the point by my method from this morning - I would need some powerful chemicals to release!
One of the most dismissive and pompous messages I have read here for a while. So - yes, if something isn't actually banned/illegal then feel free to do it, and sod everyone else - after all society shouldn't be based on a set of rules of reasonable behaviour, should it? It should, of course, be 'everyone for themselves'. "Move or don't board" - really?! You're advocating that we all cave in to those who behave unacceptably just because it's either not banned or there's no-one around to enforce those bans that do exist. People who dare to question others' poor behaviour are "uppity"?! Wow - roll on anarchy!
Why - do you not see the huge difference between the open environment of a station where people can move around freely, and where smells are hugely less intrusive than the closed one of a train?! It's worrying how many people here seem not to understand basic public behaviour requirements.
One thing that's abundantly clear from this thread; one passenger's Cornish pasty can be another passenger's old sock. The smell of a pasty on a crowded late train makes me want to boke, but I love coffee - and there are a few here that -really- don't.
Quite. Having the right to do something doesn't mean it is right to do it. Unfortunately soome people use legal rights as an excuse to throw away consideration for other people, because it is just too much effort. In any case, this thread seems to have boarded the strawman argument train, destination over-emotional attitude, at which point it becomes a waste of time trying to engage, so I won't bother anymore.