Ebbsfleet to Ashford from Eurostar

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  1. TheJRB

    TheJRB Established Member

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    Hi,


    I've just booked a few nights in Germany by Eurostar and ICE with the DB London Spezial. The good news is that Eurostar 9110 calls at Ashford on the way out but 9141 on the Saturday does not and we'll need to alight at Ebbsfleet instead on the way back.

    With my 16-25 railcard I understand it'll be £14.80 one way from Ebbsfleet to Ashford. I was wondering if there was anyway of reducing this in conjunction with international tickets. I've heard about the CIV tickets but I want to know if these can be used in this way.


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    AFAIK the special CIV tickets you're thinking of are only available to and from London.
     
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    I vaguely recall there being some sort of special arrangement for passengers needing to do this journey on Southeastern having come off Eurostar. Can't remember the specifics at the moment.

    As for CIV tickets, some are available to Ashford. I'll have a look to see if there is anything useful a bit later on.
     
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    Indeed. For example, BRFares shows that there are "Euro" fares with a CIV tag each way between Ashford (Kent) and Tonbridge. But it doesn't show anything similar between Ashford (Kent) and Ebbsfleet.
     
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    It seems that there certainly was a scheme where Eurostar passengers were entitled to free connecting journeys on the Southeastern network.

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    Whether this is still the case is worth investigating - perhaps give Eurostar a ring?
     
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    Thanks for your replies. I'll certainly contact Eurostar and Southeastern to see if it's still the case!
     
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    Just ring Eurostar, they're very knowledgable and you'll get more sense out of them than SouthEastern!
     
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    Okay then. Just had a twitter exchange with Southeastern and Eurostar:

    So no special deals for me then!
     
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    This is a situation in which an implementation of my Sandling-Calais shuttle service idea would be useful. Have customs checks at Sandling and Calais. Have all Eurostar services run non-stop through Kent, and have all Kent passengers catch a French rail service to/from Calais. New structures and platforms would obviously be required.
     
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    I wouldn't want to give up the up to 6 trains a day from Ashford though. At least on my planned trip, I'll be able to board at Ashford on the 07:28 to Brussels. Just the return that's more tricky.

    I would rather see the "shuttle" as an Ebbsfleet to Lille service running perhaps hourly or two-hourly calling at Ashford and Fréthun en-route. This would make trips to destinations in Nord-Pas de Calais a heck of a lot simpler than the long winded way of travelling by train-ferry-train.
     
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    I think that there would be at least a 4tph service between Ashford and Dover if my idea was implemented. I expect that the shuttle service could run every 15 minutes since Sandling station is directly next to the M20 and should attract people to park there like at an airport. You (at Ashford) may need to change at Sandling and Calais but you would get a far more frequent service than you presently get.
     
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    Ah well - it was worth a try.
     
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