Effect of strike on Tuesday 26 May?

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  1. paulfoel

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    Understand it will run until 5pm Tuesday.

    Any guesses on what is likely to happen?

    Some services running? Bus replacement? Or just forget it?

    As a season ticket holder assuming I can get pro rata refund (i.e. not a huge amount). Expect roads will be busy that day too.
     
  2. Arctic Troll

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    You won't get a refund as strike action is seen as force majeure.

    It'll depend on who turns up to work. Some services may run on some routes, but otherwise forget it. There won't be replacement transport provided.

    Whilst the staff will clock on again at 5pm, everything will be out of place so you can guarantee knock-on disruption for the evening of the 26th and even the morning of the 27th.
     
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    IF, and I say IF ! it's anything like the last National, the GEML ran a 12 car 30 min interval service Ipswich to London, 0700 - 1900 approx. they could not man Stowmarket of Trowse Swing Bridge boxes to do a Nor-Lon service, they can add Thorpe le Soken or maybe Clacton to the list this time.

    It would be a Sunday service on the Monday anyway I assume so reduced to start off with, so quite a few bits of stock may well be in the right place, or near right placing ! As for the G.E ...stable a few in Liverpool Street, some at Ilford or Orient Way, then at the 1700 start up they could do a second half peak ! but I reckon most would just take the day off work.
     
  4. paulfoel

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    Not happy that they wont refund season ticket. Hardly going to convince people like me to use the train, is it?
     
  5. Dave1987

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    For GEML they will probably run to Colchester and maybe Ipswich as has been said as they can man Liverpool St with management. Colchester would only need a couple of managers in to man the Colchester panel and maybe the Ipswich panel. Train planning will be rapidly redoing the mods to see what kind of service is achievable.
     
  6. paulfoel

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    Severn valley line (Newport - Gloucester) is my journey. Although, via Bristol is also doable.
     
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    Do people in London even know where these places are? Services will be geared up to get politicians and civil servants to Westminster/Whitehall - the rest can take a day off.

    Cynical moi?
     
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    Managers will man the big signal boxes and the important ones, like in strikes in years gone bye. But the service will be severely dumbed down.
     
  9. CharlieSpotted

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    The services will be dumbed down? Well, I imagine there'll be a lot of commuters bemoaning the "Stupid f*cking trains..." <D
     
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    The Maintenance guys weren't out at the same time in previous strikes, seems quite risky running a skeleton service with no staff to call out should the infrastructure fall over.
     
  11. Searle

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    Trying to do London - York on Tuesday, and have just noticed there are no advance tickets, will this be due to the strike?
     
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    I'm travelling from Bradford to Guildford on the Monday evening (1715 out of Leeds). I've bought an advance for BDI to Kings Cross. But I've not bought a U1* to GLD yet. Should I buy that ticket today so I have it before the trains are cancelled? Or are passengers just abandoned in the event of a strike?
     
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    What do you think?
     
  14. Quakkerillo

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    The strike date has now been announced, so if you were to buy one now, and refunds would be in place, you might not be entitled to one, since you bought it after it was announced. I'd wait until the day itself, see what's running and buy one in London itself if services to Guildford run. You might even be (very) delayed or not getting into London in the first place.
     
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    I do not know if there were advance tickets available before the strike was announced, as it may be due to the bank holiday. That is why I asked :)
     
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    I've bought a ticket on the last coach from Victoria to Guildford just to be certain I won't be stranded in London.
     
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    On 27th I am off to Carlisle by Caledonian Sleeper the 23:50 from Euston. I am worried if this is will effect by strike?
     
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    I wonder what the odds are of being able to travel on the 13:45 from Warrington C to Leeds, and then onto at least Shipley on the Monday afternoon are? I'm fairly confident of making it to Leeds, but I don't fancy having to get a taxi out of there towards Baildon when services start to be pulled.
     
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    If there are no trains to Shipley or Baildon catch the 760 bus on Wellington Street outside Leeds station to Shipley.
     
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    No replacement transport and no refunds? That's disgraceful!
     
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    Would replacement transport be classed as "agency work" being brought in by the employer.
     
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    Surely the hiring - or not - of RRS is ultimately down to the TOC's, not NR?
     
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    Another thing to consider is the logistics of the strike itself. It may be the case that RMT members already booked on will finish their shifts on Monday even after 1700; you just wouldn't have anyone booking on for the night shift.

    If that's the case, the effect won't be as extreme as it would be if everyone walked off at exactly 1700 on Monday. Stock and crews can get back to depots, etc.

    I wouldn't bother trying to travel at all on Tuesday, though.
     
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    Should TOCs have an agreement that where a reasonable train service isn't provided that local bus operators honour train tickets?
     
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    So what we all thinking of the happenings heading S/B Monday evening on the WCML? Risk it on my already existing advance, get a single for earlier in the day or just don't bother and come back on the Sunday?
     
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    Three of us have Advance tickets to go to Liverpool for the three Queens event, coming back via Chester from where we depart at 1619, arriving Hereford 1812. We should be between Gobowen and Shrewsbury on the stroke of 1700!

    Are our six tickets, totalling about £80, just to be wasted then? Obviously we won't travel up if we're not going to be able to get back.
     
  27. DelayRepay

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    Virgin Trains East Coast say:

    https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/travel-information/travel-alerts/?id=2504


    I won't be able to get into work but hey, I'll take a day's annual leave and have an extra-long bank holiday.

    I assume I will get an extra day added to my season ticket but if not, I'll just claim delay repay since my journey will have been delayed to the Wednesday morning.
     
  28. TimSYoung40145

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    I'm going to see the Cunard ships in Liverpool, if there's not going to be a service running to Preston/Blackpool North, there's always the Stagecoach X2 to Preston, but a Sunday service will be running, so anyone thinking of this option will have to check the last departure!
     
  29. NewcastleBrown

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    Southern's delay repay seems quite clear - "If you arrive more than 30 minutes late at your destination because of a delay to one of our services we will
    give compensation irrespective of what caused the delay, cancellation or missed connection that affected you"
     
  30. Camden

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    Been in meetings in Liverpool today. The strike happens to coincide with a special couple of days where they are (were) expecting more than a million people to descend on the city for the 175 years Cunard ships celebration (all three flagships congregating on the Mersey, fireworks, the lot). These big weekends are becoming a bit of a thing for them, and a big part of getting the city back in the groove.

    Not impressed, unhappy, cheesed off, fuming and furious... would be some of the impressions I came away with. Probably not the brightest idea to p off people in one of the most socialist cities in the country...in my opinion!
     
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