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Effect of strike on Tuesday 26 May?

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Freddie said:
Come 1700ish (depending on shift change), the signallers would go home, all the signals would revert to danger, and your traincrews would be stranded in the arse end of nowhere.
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The signallers would really just go home and leave everyone there?
 
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Anyone booked to work 1400-2200 will stay on until the end of their shift, but no doubt there'll be problems covering things after 1700. In particular, anyone working a 12 hour day shift (as many areas do on the base roster, i.e. not overtime) wouldn't be able to stay on after 1800 even if they wanted to. It'd be irresponsible for TOCs to attempt to run a service in the knowledge that services could well end up stranded in the middle of nowhere.
 
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If I did get "stranded" and the signal was red. Knowing that there is a strike can I then say that the box is closed, check the points and pass the signal at danger...

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Only after a long walk! The signal could be at danger because the box is closed due to the strike, or it could be at danger because the box is being worked by a manager who doesn't know how to clear the signal ;)
 
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D1009 said:
Total nonsense. If that is the case, why have they timed the strike at a point when the railway is at its busiest, when people are returning from a bank holiday weekend?
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If the railway is at its busiest on a Bank Holiday Monday why do some routes (such as Leeds - London) run a near-Sunday timetable?
 
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ASR have announced their services - Virtually all are cancelled;

http://www.scotrail.co.uk/plan-your-journey/uk-wide-rail-strike-plan-your-journey

On Monday Only -
Glasgow - Paisley
Glasgow - Newton
Glasgow - Neilston

On Monday and Tuesday -
Edinburgh - Glasgow (via Falkirk High)
Edinburgh - Kirkaldy/Glenrothes
Edinburgh - Cowdenbeath/Glenrothes
Glasgow - East Kilbride
Glasgow QS - Anniesland
Glasgow QS - Cumbernauld

Seems like their trying to spread services in the Strathclyde area mostly, with a lot of services not running. And most end by 5.30pm on too.
 
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If I pass a signal at danger and there is no one around to see it. Did it happen ?

On a serious side note. What happens with Automatic route setting ? Can it be used to reduce the number of signalers and help run the service or does that too need supervision ?

I know there is a question of redundancies can signalling be more automated and is that one of the fears with long term employment ?
 
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ARS might help reduce the workload (or, rather, allow each signalman to control a larger area?), but it still requires quite close supervision. Thankfully I've never had the pleasure, but I understand that it's a useful tool but not brilliant once things start running out of course. I don't know how heavily it'll be relied upon during the dispute - but, if they are planning to run a service with a skeleton staff of managers 'supervising' the ARS, expect things to go very wrong (possibly dangerously so) if any sort of failure occurs that results in degraded working of any sort.
 
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It's a shame services will run after 5pm on the Monday...we could be getting 24 hour all lines possessions across the whole network! <D

I'm told that in '94, PICOPs were queuing up at the boxes with 30 mins to go before the start of the strike to take blocks, then handed them back when the Signalers came back 24 hours later <D:lol:. If only we could do that this time! :lol:
 
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Am I right that the strike means that signallers who are booked to sign on between 1700 Monday and 1700 on Tuesday wont be in.

So if a signaller is due to book on at 1400 and is due to finish at 2200 they will work normally on the Monday but wont be in at all on the Tuesday.
 
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No services from Virgin Trains on Monday or Tuesday at all.
Industrial Action: 25 - 26 May 2015
INFORMATION:

There will be no Virgin Trains services running on either Monday 25 or Tuesday 26 May. This is the result of a strike called by members of the RMT & TSSA unions that work for track and infrastructure operator Network Rail on these dates.
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more: http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/
 
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455driver said:
Am I right that the strike means that signallers who are booked to sign on between 1700 Monday and 1700 on Tuesday wont be in.



So if a signaller is due to book on at 1400 and is due to finish at 2200 they will work normally on the Monday but wont be in at all on the Tuesday.
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Yeah that's right.
 
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FGW have released what they think will run.

Briefly:
  • Main line services running as far as Plymouth (all via BRI, nothing via the B&H) and Swansea (Mon)/Cardiff (Tue).
  • Thames Valley services running between Didcot and Paddington, including a non-stop RDG-PAD. Bourne End/Marlow and Windsor branch line services to run every 20/30 mins.
  • On the West services, hourly Cardiff - Taunton, Bristol Parkway - Weston-super-Mare, Exeter - Newton Abbot services.
  • No service for Oxford nor beyond to Worcester and Hereford
  • No service Plymouth - Penzance nor any Devon or Cornwall branch lines
  • No service between Reading and Taunton over the B&H, all services via Bristol.
  • No service Bath Spa - Portsmouth/Weymouth
  • No service Reading to Gatwick Airport/Basingstoke
  • No service Swindon to Gloucester/Cheltenham
  • No service for the Henley-on-Thames, Greenford nor Severn Beach branch lines
  • Services that do operate will run between appox. 0730 and 1830.

Full details: https://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/travel-updates/strike-information
 
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XC services for Monday and Tuesday. Apologies if I'm repeating what someone else has already posted.

Crosscountry said:
Members of the RMT and TSSA Unions that work for track and infrastructure operator Network Rail have announced that they are planning to take industrial action on Bank Holiday Monday 25 May and Tuesday 26 May.

Talks are currently underway with all those involved and we are hopeful that a resolution can be found. However, should the action go ahead it is likely to cause significant disruption to rail services on both days.

Disruption will vary by route and CrossCountry will only be able to operate the following revised timetable. Please note this information could change so customers are advised to check their journey details carefully.

Monday 25 May 2015

Plymouth to Bristol Temple Meads starting at 0725 and every hour until 1700
Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth starting at 0645, then 0845 and every hour until 1700
Derby to Newcastle via Leeds starting at 0811 and every hour until 1511
Newcastle to Derby via Leeds starting at 0835 and every hour until 1535
Tuesday 26 May 2015

Plymouth to Bristol Temple Meads starting at 0725 and every hour until 1700
Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth starting at 0645, then 0845 and every hour until 1700
Derby to Newcastle via Doncaster starting at 0811 and every hour until 1511
Newcastle to Derby via Doncaster starting at 0835 and every hour until 1535
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http://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/travel-updates/industrial-action-25-and-26-may-2015
 
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No FGW sleeper service on Tuesday night !! Would have thought a unit could have been "Locked in" on St Ives branch to run to / from Lelant Saltings ? Then again why bother - Network Rail will be sending nice fat cheques to TOC 's.
 
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Perhaps its just easier to say to customers "no service at all" than try to communicate a complicated emergency timetable which might not work very well anyway.

I'm not saying it's the right way to go about it, but it's... pragmatic? At least it's simple to understand.
 
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Carlisle said:
That seems a very poor effort from Virgin as during the last series of strikes in 1994 BR did manage to run at least a few Inter City West Coast services
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Was all of this planned for the same time back then? This possibly has something to do with it as well.

Virgin Trains said:
Spring bank holiday improvements
Major improvement works along the West Coast Mainline are taking place during the Spring bank holiday weekend.
We'd hate for you to get caught in these improvement works, so if you are travelling between Saturday 23 and Monday 25 May 2015, please check before you travel.
The improvements will be taking place between the following stations on our route:
Milton Keynes Central and Rugby
Birmingham New Street
Wolverhampton and Stafford
Stafford and Crewe
Crewe and Carlisle
Carlisle and Edinburgh or Glasgow
These closures will affect some of our trains. There will be extended journeys and possibly rail replacements coaches, particularly between Crewe and Scotland. So, you'll need to plan carefully and allow longer to get to your destination if you choose to travel.
Please check timetables and routes (see section below) before you travel.
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Whilst Network Rail are on strike and some/all of the work might not be done VTs staffing schedules would have been done for this weekend a while back. It's probably easier to can the lot than try and work around some of the sections of track that are going to be open.

They could have tried to run something on the Tuesday though but they may have been told they can't.

What will actually happen with the planned engineering works? Will they work until some point on Monday or will the work be completely rescheduled?
 
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