Electrification threads and resources index

GRALISTAIR · 6 Jul 2017

Mordac said:
June update from NR out here: https://16cbgt3sbwr8204sf92da3xxc5m...7/06/Enhancements-Delivery-Plan-June-2017.pdf

Just found it, haven't looked at anything yet.

EDIT: Victoria to Stalybridge pushed back to May 2018.
GOBLIN dates all TBC.

Not only that but it does not say Stalybridge - it uses the phrase "The Miles Platting area" very worrying

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snowball · 7 Jul 2017

Here's another version of the link with less gobbledegook in the address. I suspect this version may be more likely to continue working in the longer term:

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Enhancements-Delivery-Plan-June-2017.pdf

Mordac · 18 Jul 2017

There doesn't seem to be an open thread to ask this, but it's not really worth creating a new thread for it.

How much of the electric spine was actually ever meant to be wired in CP5 (not just design work)? Of course I know that none of it will actually get done except Bedford to Kettering.

GRALISTAIR · 18 Jul 2017

Mordac said:
There doesn't seem to be an open thread to ask this, but it's not really worth creating a new thread for it.

How much of the electric spine was actually ever meant to be wired in CP5 (not just design work)? Of course I know that none of it will actually get done except Bedford to Kettering.

The crayonista politicians wanted it all - but realistically GWML -Oxford and MML would be what was expected.

I think this thread pinned above is worth a re-read.

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88557&highlight=ELECTRIC+SPINE

Mordac · 18 Jul 2017

GRALISTAIR said:
The crayonista politicians wanted it all - but realistically GWML -Oxford and MML would be what was expected.

I think this thread pinned above is worth a re-read.

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88557&highlight=ELECTRIC+SPINE

Thanks, I'll read that and come back if needed.

GRALISTAIR · 20 Jul 2017

July 2017 Major announcements re electrification scrapping

Electrification Scrapped

Electrification scrapped.

According to a report in today's Sun, the electrification of the Liverpool to Manchester and London to Swansea lines has been axed because they cost too much money apparently. Lord Attlee blamed the state of the public finances. He also said the Government was seeking additional savings of £682...

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An interesting take - not scrapped -slowed down ROLLING STOCK
https://waronthemotorist.wordpress.com/

GRALISTAIR · 23 Aug 2017

August 2017 Threads

OLE -Classic Feeding- Return and Earth

OLE - Classic Feeding - Return Conductor and Earth

I've been learning about OLE recently, just a quick question in relation to the return conductor; does this also act as the earth wire in classic feeding/ booster transformer arrangement? Or is it the case that the traction return rails act as an earthing point as they are bonded to the OLE...

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Converting 3rd Rail infrastructure to 25 kV AC OHLE infrastructure
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=152803

Document - actually from 2012 - Lecture on DC-AC Conversion including BML
https://www.imeche.org/docs/default...to_AC_Conversion_by_Steve_Yianni.pdf?sfvrsn=0

GRALISTAIR · 8 Sep 2017

Sept 2017 Threads

West of England and Bournemouth Main Line Overhead Electrification
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=3120478#post3120478

Do the Emperor's new BiModes affect any business case (including electrification business cases) ?
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=153564

Tory MP says Bimodes are Second Best
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=153530

Impact of OHLE on scenery
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=153906

GRALISTAIR · 25 Sep 2017

September 2017 – Electrification or new build electrifying in Progress

To save clogging up the GWML thread et al - how many projects involving electrification are currently in progress?
Please feel free to add and suggest edits.

I will probably update quarterly though there are a lot of projects coming to completion in the next 6 to 9 months

Manchester to Preston and Blackpool North plus Man Vic – Miles Platting area
Bolton to Wigan North Western
Great Western Main Line
Midland Main Line to Kettering and Corby only
Gospel Oak to Barking Line
Barnt Green to Bromsgrove
Chase Line from Walsall to Rugeley Trent Valley
Edinburgh Glasgow Improvement Programme (EGIP)
Edinburgh – Glasgow via Shotts
Crossrail (yes new build but it will be electrified from the start)
HS2 (yes new build but it will be electrified from the start)

GRALISTAIR · 28 Sep 2017

I thought many of the Permanent Way Institutions lectures - and thus PowerPoint presentations are very useful indeed and a valuable resource. Anyway - here is a summary of links to relevant electrification documents

Permanent Way Institution Seminars etc- Electrification only
Home Page

https://www.thepwi.org/

Principles for New Electrification
https://www.thepwi.org/technical_hu...k/03_nw_modernising_railway_john_fry_feb_2016

EGIP
https://www.thepwi.org/technical_hu...nising_railway_hamiliton_and_mcinnes_feb_2016

Northern Hub – includes Transpennine Upgrade- Youtube posted upthread
https://www.thepwi.org/technical_hu...orthern_hub_beyond_david_lawrance_james_hodge

These are in the public domain. Full disclosure I paid my 75 quid fee and became a member.

snowball · 9 Oct 2017

The latest update to the Enhancements Delievery Plan is now up:

https://16cbgt3sbwr8204sf92da3xxc5m...ploads/2017/10/Enhancements-Delivery-Plan.pdf

GRALISTAIR · 11 Oct 2017

Electrification RUS (This link now appears to be dead)
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/browse documents/rus documents/route utilisation strategies/network/working group 4 - electrification strategy/networkrus_electrification.pdf2009

Here is a link to the archived version

http://archive.nr.co.uk/browse documents/rus documents/route utilisation strategies/network/working group 4 - electrification strategy/networkrus_electrification.pdf

GRALISTAIR · 12 Oct 2017

Not seen this before - dated July 2017 - research paper from Parliament with electrification summary updated with all the cancellations etc

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05907/SN05907.pdf

GRALISTAIR · 12 Oct 2017

More Historical Electrification Documents

Original 1981 Parliament report about electrification
http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/DoTBRB_Electrification1981.pdf

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsummary.php?docID=411

http://uktransport.wikia.com/wiki/Railway_electrification_in_Great_Britain

Olaf · 20 Oct 2017

snowball said:
The latest update to the Enhancements Delievery Plan is now up:

https://16cbgt3sbwr8204sf92da3xxc5m...ploads/2017/10/Enhancements-Delivery-Plan.pdf

So "Midland Main Line Electrification (Kettering to Nottingham & Sheffield)" has formally been replaced by "Midland Main Line Bi-mode Enabling" though the section header appears not to have been updated with Electrification part of Key Output 1a still listed and a footnote that should have been addressed. That looks like a formal acknowledgement of the end to any prospects of completing the electrification of MML in CP6.

Still no update on the Kings Lynn to Cambridge project either.

GRALISTAIR · 20 Oct 2017

Olaf said:
Still no update on the Kings Lynn to Cambridge project either.

Power supply upgrade ?

Olaf · 20 Oct 2017

GRALISTAIR said:
Power supply upgrade ?

It appears not to have progressed pending available funds.

GRALISTAIR · 27 Oct 2017

OHLE Clearances 25 kV AC vs 1500V DC
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/ohle-clearances-and-25kv-v-1500v-dc.156225/

Longest Delayed Engineering Work (heavy input on Electrification)
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/longest-delayed-engineering-works.156211/

GRALISTAIR · 6 Nov 2017

GRALISTAIR · 16 Nov 2017

The Permanent Way Institution just sent me this: Something to look forward to.

On 25th April 2018, we will be running our first Electrification seminar called Railway Junctions – The Electrification Challenges. The presentations from the seminar will be available to download shortly after and, subject to confirmation, it will be filmed and made available to our members on the website.

GRALISTAIR · 20 Nov 2017

Recent Youtube Videos

Midland Mainline Electrification Mast Milestone

How to Electrify a Railway

Class 170101 · 28 Nov 2017

How to electrify a railway? Don't ask NR

GRALISTAIR · 4 Dec 2017

December 2017 Threads

Third Rail on the outside on the southern
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/third-rail-on-the-outside-on-the-southern.157699/

GRALISTAIR · 12 Dec 2017

GRALISTAIR · 21 Dec 2017

Updated title per moderator split off and rename

Transpennine Route Upgrade and Electrification, CP6
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88054

Mordac · 21 Dec 2017

December 2017 Enhancements Plan update is out: https://cdn.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Enhancements-Delivery-Plan.pdf

GRALISTAIR · 22 Dec 2017

Gordon Head who posts as nodrog on YouTube has a whole series of videos around Preston and quite a few of electrification and signal boxes on the Preston-Blackpool line. With his permission I will reserve this page and link them here

Electrification team at Salwick attaching SPS and cantilevers to masts

Blackpool North Upgrade weeks 1-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtoeOPf1_3M

Blackpool Line Electrification Upgrade 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeBKeMn1Duw

Blackpool Line Electrification Upgrade 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhXNNoRaZw

Blackpool Line Electrification Upgrade aerial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7RJwkxrikY&t=6s

Blackpool North Box demolition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRrXlxkd0-U

Carleton Box demolition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hD6zjmtENs

Kirkham Signal Box demolition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUGr7M69usk

Salwick Box demolition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSW420OwXPo

Blackpool North Long Platforms January 12th 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFovNKhJ-w&t=327s

Upgrade Blackpool -Preston posted January 14th 2018

March 1st update showing Kirkham to Blackpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rztMCQMSE&t=35s

Wiring Train on Blackpool Line

3 week delay wiring to Blackpool North

The Trains are back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIbZeUnisG4

The Test Train at Blackpool North
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ9sPOWpIeY

GRALISTAIR · 1 Jan 2018

January 2018– Electrification or new build electrifying in Progress

1) Manchester to Preston and Blackpool North plus Man Vic – Miles Platting area
2) Bolton to Wigan North Western - GRIP 3
3) Great Western Main Line London - Cardiff
4) Midland Main Line to Kettering and Corby only
5) Gospel Oak to Barking Line (GOBLIN) - very close to completion
6) Barnt Green to Bromsgrove
7) Chase Line from Walsall to Rugeley Trent Valley
8) Edinburgh Glasgow Improvement Programme (EGIP)
a) via Falkirk High complete
b) Edinburgh – Glasgow via Shotts
9) Rolling Programme -- Cumbernauld - Falkirk Grahamston etc- Stirling- Dunblane -Alloa

EGIP – Stirling-Dunblane-Alloa deliverability review

http://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/26188/stirling-dunblane-alloa-electrification-project-deliverability-review-summary-report-2017-07-25.pdf

10) Crossrail (yes new build but it will be electrified from the start)
11) HS2 (yes new build but it will be electrified from the start)

fflint · 8 Jan 2018

I've just come across this superb thread, well done Gralistair and thanks for all the work you've put into it, along with your reports on the northern electrification threads.

GRALISTAIR · 8 Jan 2018

January 2018 threads

INCLUDING Overhead Wire Problems

Stoke On Trent January 7th 2018
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/stoke-on-trent-overhead-wire-problems-07-1-18.159045/

Liverpool Lime St January 7th 2018
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/liverpool-lime-street-overhead-wire-problems-7-1-18.159047/page-2#post-3278688

Speculation - Northwest Electrification - hindsight -what should have been done
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/speculation-hindsight-electrification-of-the-northwest.159227/

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