End of the line for Paris’ iconic metro ticket

[rvdborgt]

Navigo Easy cards can be issued from select ticket machines.

Any idea how you can recognise those?

 

[signed]

Any idea how you can recognise those?

It's usually only those at airports/railway stations' metro/RER stations, and they'll have huge pink/red sticker + ads about Navigo Easy on idle screen, or sign aside from them saying they sell Navigo Easy card

 

[James H]

Delete - duplicate

 

[danchester]

Any idea how you can recognise those?

They're well labelled:

Good news about compatibility finally reaching iPhones. I just wish it would work on more Android phones, not just Samsungs!

 

[rvdborgt]

They're well labelled:

Thanks, that's indeed very clear.

Good news about compatibility finally reaching iPhones. I just wish it would work on more Android phones, not just Samsungs!

It works on my Fairphone 3. Just try it; IIRC the app tests your phone before you can buy tickets.

 

[BahrainLad]

They're well labelled:

Good news about compatibility finally reaching iPhones. I just wish it would work on more Android phones, not just Samsungs!

Maybe I was being dense at the time but I can’t recall seeing any of those at Gare du Nord metro entrance which seems crazy, does anyone know otherwise?

 

[danchester]

Thanks, that's indeed very clear.

It works on my Fairphone 3. Just try it; IIRC the app tests your phone before you can buy tickets.

Not my Pixel 4a. But that is useful to know for my partner who has a Fairphone 3!

Maybe I was being dense at the time but I can’t recall seeing any of those at Gare du Nord metro entrance which seems crazy, does anyone know otherwise?

From recollection there definitely is one there (or at least used to be), though I think it's separate from all of the standard machines which are in a line with (usually) a large queue in front of them, it's elsewhere in the entrance area. I'll be there in a week's time hoping to buy one so I can report back...

 

[Benjwri]

Maybe I was being dense at the time but I can’t recall seeing any of those at Gare du Nord metro entrance which seems crazy, does anyone know otherwise?

There were at least two when I went last summer. However both had no passes in stock.

 

[danchester]

From recollection there definitely is one there (or at least used to be), though I think it's separate from all of the standard machines which are in a line with (usually) a large queue in front of them, it's elsewhere in the entrance area. I'll be there in a week's time hoping to buy one so I can report back...

For what it's worth, yes, there were several dotted around the Gare du Nord metro station. But on this occasion they were all sold out of Navigo Easy passes, so for me paper tickets live on a little longer!

 

[BahrainLad]

The reference to paper tickets reminded me...I wasn't expecting the Navigo pass to indeed feel like it's made out of paper, I was expecting something far more robust like an Oyster or Octopus card that would last for a long period of time (i.e. I could keep it pretty much forever). I am not sure the Navigo will last that long so I suppose I will just add it to my Apple Wallet in future (until the EU ban that or some such nonsense).

 

[signed]

wasn't expecting the Navigo pass to indeed feel like it's made out of paper

It's just a paper texture (was probably cheaper), they very solid (mine (older format) has 10+ years now and still rocks)

 

[Peter Mugridge]

It's just a paper texture (was probably cheaper), they very solid (mine (older format) has 10+ years now and still rocks)

They also supply a robust plastic holder for it don't they?

At least mine has one...

 

[island]

I think you may be mixing and matching between the Navigo Decouverte card which has been around for ages, comes with a photocard and a plastic holder, and the the Navigo Easy which is rather more recent and less robust, and is just the card.

 

[signed]

I think you may be mixing and matching between the Navigo Decouverte card which has been around for ages, comes with a photocard and a plastic holder, and the the Navigo Easy which is rather more recent and less robust, and is just the card.

I'm pretty sure you can just ask any staffed station for a plastic holder since the Easy card is the same format as the other ones

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I'm pretty sure you can just ask any staffed station for a plastic holder since the Easy card is the same format as the other ones

You can' we have a few people at work who visit Paris regularly on business who have an Easy in a plastic holder.

 

[BahrainLad]

I think you may be mixing and matching between the Navigo Decouverte card which has been around for ages, comes with a photocard and a plastic holder, and the the Navigo Easy which is rather more recent and less robust, and is just the card.

Yes I am referring to Navigo Easy which definitely comes as a paper card, it's barely thicker than a UK rail ticket and did not come with a plastic holder when I got it at a ticket office.

 

[island]

I'm pretty sure you can just ask any staffed station for a plastic holder since the Easy card is the same format as the other ones

You can if they have them in stock, but they're not given as a default.

 

[D6130]

My Navigo Easy Is a robust plastic credit card-sized affair. Mind I've had it for a few years now.

 

[biko]

I bought a hard plastic Navigo Easy in February at Gare du Nord from a ticket machine, so not even that long ago.

 

[TRXsouth]

They're well labelled:

Good news about compatibility finally reaching iPhones. I just wish it would work on more Android phones, not just Samsungs!

“Good news about compatibility finally reaching iPhones.”

I cannot find clarification of this on the iledefrance-mobilites.fr website so have been searching elsewhere. I have come across the website parisbytrain.com with a ‘Passes Tickets‘ section including a 24 June 2024 post “Navigo Pass iPhone App & Android App.” This states that the iPhone requirements are iPhone XS or newer including iPhone SE 2020 (so not iPhone X, 8 or older) and iOS17.5 or later.
Sorry I can’t seem to add a link, but hope the details are helpful for reference.

 

[rg177]

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[James H]

The IDM Mobilites app has had a further update (on iOS at least) and you can now buy t+ and carnet tickets directly within the app, rather than just through the Apple Wallet.

 

[Beebman]

The IDM Mobilites app has had a further update (on iOS at least) and you can now buy t+ and carnet tickets directly within the app, rather than just through the Apple Wallet.

Yesterday I used the app to buy a 'Paris 2024 Pass 1 Day' ticket (Zones 1-5 for 16 EUR), the special ticket available in the period between the start of the Olympics and the end of the Paralympics. Unfortunately I had an issue with the purchased pass not appearing in the app so I had to buy a second one and move it immediately to my Apple Wallet. Fortunately though, the app has a 'Contact us' facility in English so I raised a complaint and within an hour I received a refund with no arguments so maybe it happens frequently. Anyway my advice would be to move it immediately to Apple Wallet after purchase.

As for using it on my phone I had absolutely no problems, all the gates I used allowed me through. I went on the Line 14 extension to Orly which is in a special fare zone, however it doesn't apply to the Paris 2024 Pass and indeed I exited the station without having to pay any supplement. Likewise I used the Orlyval to Antony for RER B without paying anything extra.

 

[trei2k]

I bought a hard plastic Navigo Easy in February at Gare du Nord from a ticket machine, so not even that long ago.

Same here. I got mine in August from Gare du Nord from a machine like the one pictured in this thread.

I have to admit, I love the fact I can buy tickets on my phone (Android) and load them directly onto the card. This is a real welcome change.

 

[signed]

If you are under-26, and travelling on the week-end, make sure you get a day Navigo Jeunes Week-End, especially during the Games, as it is weirdly still available.

It's €4.70 for 1-3 and €10.35 for Zone 1-5

 

[danchester]

Discovered today that Eurostar are now selling Navigo Easy cards at the cafe-bar instead of carnets. The attendant launched straight into a script about how they are similar to Oyster cards, how to top them up etc, and he was keen to top it up with two singles to it to start with - he was certainly well trained. Perhaps all prompted by the Olympics. Either way the end of the line is looking closer and closer!

 

[signed]

Discovered today that Eurostar are now selling Navigo Easy cards at the cafe-bar instead of carnets. The attendant launched straight into a script about how they are similar to Oyster cards, how to top them up etc, and he was keen to top it up with two singles to it to start with - he was certainly well trained. Perhaps all prompted by the Olympics. Either way the end of the line is looking closer and closer!

What is the mark-up on those for curiosity?

 

[danchester]

What is the mark-up on those for curiosity?

My example isn't the best because I paid in £ and didn't enquire further about prices, others may know better. I paid £7.90 (~€9.30) for a card with two singles which would usually cost €6.30 (~£5.40). Not sure where the markup is applied there - they could be selling the cards for €5 instead of €2, or the singles could be more expensive too.

 

[rvdborgt]

My example isn't the best because I paid in £ and didn't enquire further about prices, others may know better. I paid £7.90 (~€9.30) for a card with two singles which would usually cost €6.30 (~£5.40). Not sure where the markup is applied there - they could be selling the cards for €5 instead of €2, or the singles could be more expensive too.

Singles are currently €4:

https://www.ratp.fr/en/visiter-paris/titres-jeux-olympiques-paralympiques-paris-2024

So it looks like you actually paid a bit less...

 

[DeverseSam]

So the standard t+ metro ticket will be discontinued completely at the end of the year, both on cardboard and Navigo.

Any ideas on whether you can still use them after 2025?